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Wish they'd give us the option to see if a 257 WSM or 25 SAUM would survive or not.Bet they would the WSM anyway.

7WSM will survive in my gun safe... Big Sky is not going anywhere...

It's good to be happy with what you own

It's the shooting public that decides which ones live and which ones die. I hardly think that a manufacturer is going to drop a chambering that is at least breaking even. So if you want your favorite to live you best be buying, and convince your friends to do the same. As for me i advise my non reloading friends to go with the .270 win, and 06, but I like to be a little different.

i'd advise him to get a 30-06.

Maybe I am still young enough and in shape where a 300 short mag(insert your caliber) doesnt sway me from a 300 WM.All the short mags offer a weight advantage but the heavier the bullet gets the more they usually fall behind the long action originals.I dont think they will be popular in the long run IMO.I feel a better gain was made with the 300 RUM over the 300WM than any of the Winchester or Remington short mags.

I have a 25 SAUM finish reamer, so as long as folks are making .257" bored tubes, there can be a 25 SAUM in my future!

Jeff

Thats cool.Would be one of the only people with one.
Wouldn't mind a 25 shorty doesn't really matter too much which case but would perfer the WSM as the engine .

I think the 270, 300 and 325 will be around for many years...which will probably keep the 7mm alive.

My pick once upon a time would have been the 300 WSM, but convinced now, particularly with the advent of monolithic bullets and seeing what they can do, that the 270 WSM is lots of rifle for everything North American, 'cept maybe griz.

The 300 WSM is all over the place in elk camps I've been around the last few years anyway; I think there's quite of few of them and rightly so, it's a neat cartridge.

As long as there's 300 WSM brass, I can resize to .325 WSM. To me, .325 is hands-down the most interesting of the bunch, and it is accurate in both my rifles so chambered. It sure leaves a mark on critters, as you'd expect. Recoil is about square between my 30-06 and my .338.

I will add that the mojo of the WSM's is, in my humble opinion, in the rifles you can get them in... a Montana, or BLR, in .325 is a fairly unique thing in terms of size/weight/power etc.

300 WSM is everywhere that I look! The 270 WSM is around in some places, the 325 much less so. All the rest are gone from the mainstream.

From a performance tangent, the 270 short mag is the only one to date that tweaks my interest. Don't have one, but if the the excess $$$ shows up, I might. All the rest can be outrun by their longer counterparts.

If I had to bet on one surviving, it would be the 300. If I had to pick one that, as objectively speaking as I can, should survive in my opinion, it would be the 7wsm. This is just my opinion. Actually I like all of them and think all of them were a good concept. Larger numbers of choices makes these types of hobbies and discussions fun.

not to piss in the punchbowl, but the results I've seen in Handloader and elsewhere suggest that the short .270 is effectively just that......270 Win performance in a shorter package. I thought a magnum was supposed to, you know, be better and faster? By some significant margin?

never drank the short mag koolaid, and the gun-buying public seems to have been largely immune, too.....RIP SAUMs and WSSMs. The WSMs will survive as loonie guns anyway as long as there's .300 brass around.

The SAUM's, WSM's, WSSM's, RCM's, and whatever comes next aren't going to die.
They were never intended to replace the "old guard" calibers like 270, 280, 30-06, 300 WM, that make up the bulk of the rifle sales. The market is big enough for both.

There are some great calibers and rifles in the short mags.
Will they kill animals better than the stand bys??? Maybe, maybe not. Drink the kool aid and find out, you know you want to.

........I don`t know what results you`re looking at. Not trying to piss in your kool-aid punch bowl here, but in fact, according to my `08 Hodgdon Reloading Manual, given the same bullet, bullet weight and barrel length, all bullets from the 270 WSM, do out perform the 270 Win by a fairly good margin.

For example. In my Hodgdon Manual, both cartridges list a 130 gr Horn SP. Add up the total velocities listed and then divide by the total # of loads listed for this bullet. For the 270 Win, the average across the board velocity for all loads listed is 2977.86 fps. For the 270 WSM it is 3191.76 fps. A difference of 213.90 fps going to the favor of the 270 WSM.

For the 150 gr Horn SP which both cartridges list, using the same math format, the average difference is 194.38 fps to the 270 WSM`s favor.

The 130 gr Barnes TSX listed for both, shows a 129.09 fps advantage for the 270 WSM.

For the 100 gr SPR HP which again is listed for both, there is a 222.73 fps difference in favor of the 270 WSM across the board for all loadings.

In my Sierra Manual, I read from the 1st paragraph the following from the 270 WSM`s intro!..Quote, "Delivering another 200 fps above its older stable-mate, it rivals the performance of the Weatherby offering."..Unquote.

The 270 WSM is a weeeeeee bit more than just a 270 Win in a shorter package. The #`s from Hodgdon, Sierra and others speak for themselves. In the 270 WSM`s case, the letter "M" following the WS in certainly justified. There is a wider performance difference between these two than the 300WSM vs 300 WIN....PASS ME SOME OF THAT KOOL-AID!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that both the 300wsm and the 270wsm will survive. I don't hazard a guess on the others, which is not meant as a negative. The Kimbers in the short mags are sweet rifles.

I've done my part, buying a 300 and 325 WSM. I have to give my nod to the 325 as the best, but that could have something to do with the fact that my new x-bolt likes to shoot tiny little groups. Then again, I mostly hunt elk, and the way the 325 handles 200gr bullets is a plus, big 200gr bullets and little groups.... I love it.

Hope that the 7mm WSM survives, because I own one and it is a very good caliber. I prefer the 7mm's and own 7mm 08, 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mm WSM. Think that they all have their place.

Go someplace else and get an '06.

Don't worry about which one might survive.