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Indy,
I consider the 450-400 a very capable elephant rifle. The 470 or 500 is probably better under all conditions, at least from a logical point of view, but I use my 450-400-3" Searcy on all dangerous game and have for years used that caliber..I shot the 470 for awhile but couldn't tell much difference in the results.
But I am sold on the 40 calibers, they are all I have ever needed and they have served me so well I see no reason to change again, tried it more than a few time with bigger calibers and didn't like them as well, so I'll probably stay with the big 40's...
The 450-400s by Searcy are on smaller frames than the .470 etc. and I really like that..You can shoot monolithics in the Searcys btw...
In all the English rifles I have seen, the 450-400s in both configurations are on .470 frames and quite heavy at 10.5 pounds or more..However they do have much heavier barrels as a result of the larger frames and they are the one English double rifle caliber that I am comfortable shooting monolithics in as the barrels are so damn thick...I have shot many rounds of Barnes X in my English doubles, both Jefferys, Watson, and Army Navy. I won't shoot them in the larger calibers in English rifles as the steel is not up to todays quality IMO.
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Search Heym USA and give Chris a call. He can answer most if not all of your questions and he will not pressure you to buy his product. He will be in on Tues. I just bought the .450/.400!
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Jprice,
Having handled one of the 450/400 Heyms in the shop that I believe Chris may use as a "showroom," I have to say I really like that rifle. Plain & functional and in a caliber I like. I need to start saving up a little "change" for that one. The one I handled had a "sold" tag and for all I know was your rifle!
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If one wanted a nice 450-400-3", and cost is a concern, then I would just buy a good Ruger No.1 in that caliber at around $800 for a new one or find a used one for a couple of hundred less...
If I were going to buy a double then it will be a Searcy or an English boxlock double. That will cost about $1500 to $2000 more but its going to cost a bunch anyway.
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Jprice,
Having handled one of the 450/400 Heyms in the shop that I believe Chris may use as a "showroom," I have to say I really like that rifle. Plain & functional and in a caliber I like. I need to start saving up a little "change" for that one. The one I handled had a "sold" tag and for all I know was your rifle!
is it any slimmer / lighter than the Heym 470 ? (my 470 weighs about 9.7# empty)
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Would not hesitate to hunt elephant with it, although I bought it with buffalo in mind.
It is an ideal buffalo caliber. Recoil is light enough to get off a quick follow-up shot out of the left barrel. Both of these guys got a right and left, and both were down inside of 30 yards. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.chrissells.com/hunt/buff2.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.chrissells.com/hunt/3699.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.chrissells.com/hunt/3865.jpg)
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Chris,
is it built on the same frame as the 470 >
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Nice buffs! Don't know much about doubles - what's the rifle in the pics?
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