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Uh actually no Hemi. Ford secured that money with mortgages and such on every single piece of property and equipment it has. It was part of the "Way Forward" plan announced 2 years ago. There is No government money involved.
Ford did ask to get the same consideration in loans should it become necessary to Ford in the interest of fairness. So far it has not become necessary and appears it won't. Ford is actually doing better than it and others estimated previously.
Ford is further along in it's reorganization planned when there was no recession and market tank. From now own there are realignments and introductions of true world products at Ford.
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No doubt that Ford is further along- they "saw the storm" before anyone else! I guess I stand corrected- thanks for the info.
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My bad, I got that turned around. Meaning, things must be different in Michigan than in Wyoming- we have no stores in Michigan.
Still, where does you information come from as far as be prepared?
No worries. We obviously both got a little turned around. That story about dealers preparing to not get reimbursed for warranty work or rebates has been ran on Channel 7 Detroit. If you do a search I'm sure you will find plenty and no doubt dealers are processing claims ASAP so they dont get stuck when......errr *if* GM files bankrupcy.
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That�s what I�m talking about when Toyota builds a REAL truck that can haul and tow stuff like this one let me know. I need a real truck not some little toy hauler.  ![[Linked Image]](http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1277/1001060truckboat.jpg)
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Not a problem Hemi and thanks for your previous help regarding the various Cummins engines.
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Had major problems with the last 3 GM vehicles I owned. 79 Chev Malibu and 82 Olds Cutlas Supreme both had major engine problems. My 86 Olds Cutlas Ciera was the best of the bunch, but the tranny took a dump at 85K. Then there was a Dodge and Ford.
Wife now has a Honda and its been bullet proof. When my Explorer dies I'll probably replace it with another Ford or Toyota. Now that's a recent market sample.
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i love my 2008 chevrolet duramax diesel. this truck is everything a truck should be. i doesn't know the word stop until you put the brakes on it. i only have about 12,000 miles on it, and figure it will last me a long time. no way in the world i will buy a ford. i'll just hang on to it as long as it will last me, unless GM makes a better diesel.
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We run Fords and Toyotas at my house. Had a Mazda car a while back, but it was effectively a Ford product.
Now with even more aplomb
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I pray that there are always Ford pickup trucks. 7500 lbs. hanging from the bumper plus a ton of crap on the chassis for a trip up the hill early last September. Shaq diesel is the only way to fly....(grin) ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/concretebigsky003.jpg)
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Guess I'm glad I got my 08 F-350 when I did. Don't see a Toyota pullin' my 17,000 lb fifth wheel.
Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.
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Now this whole thread is funny right there.....
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4 tires on the rear end are nice.
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Guess I'm glad I got my 08 F-350 when I did. Don't see a Toyota pullin' my 17,000 lb fifth wheel.
You just ain't watched enough of them Jap ads.
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I'll be driving Toyota trucks from now on. Me too.
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Guess I'm glad I got my 08 F-350 when I did. Don't see a Toyota pullin' my 17,000 lb fifth wheel.
I almost took a picture of the banner, but I drove by a Toyota dealer today and they have a banner that says, "Test drive a Tundra, then buy a real truck." I thought about it for less than half a second and said to myself, what, drive a Tundra, then go drive a Ford? What are they trying to say?
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Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
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Toyota's are good trucks.
Do they have F350 Powerstroke's over there in Japan?
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I'm not sure SamOlson. I guess if they have 5th wheels and travel trailers like we do they must have Super Dutys.
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
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I've owned a number of Hondas, Mazdas, and Fords. The quality of Hondas and Mazdas has invariably been outstanding, but I have to admit that the Fords were not far behind. Two of the Fords were F-150's, and I have been very pleased with both of them. I'd buy another.
Had a good friend who was a GM Service Mgr. He had absolutely nothing good to say about GM products, and eventually quit and went into business for himself because he felt so frustrated about the products he was trying to fix for his customers. He told me there were many times he felt like taking them out for a walk and explaining, "Look, Mister, I'll fix it but it'll break again because it's a piece of $hit."
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Good luck with your warranty. I have a 2008 Yukon with a front end that vibrates like a bed in a cheap motel at 70 mph. GM has already announced that dealers should prepare for not getting paid for warranty work or rebates. What do you really think the odds are of a dealer paying out of his pocket to fix your vehicle? I said I'd never buy another GM when I traded the NotsoDuramax in. I should have listended to myself and bought a Ford.  How do you get a motel up to 70 mph? Bet it takes a lot of fast power - strokes.. 
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"How do you get a motel up to 70 mph? Bet it takes a lot of fast power - strokes.." LOL and a lot of quarters!
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