Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Could you disprove the resurection of Jesus in a court of law?

I don't know, Pete. Seems to me if you don't know, that means you've not been in a courtroom. Seems a good kind of ignorance, to me.

Have a good day,Pete!

In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court or other judicial body utilizes when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts.

The Uniform Determination of Death Act
The National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws in 1980 formulated the Uniform Determination of Death Act (UDDA). It states that: "An individual who has sustained either

(1) irreversible cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions, or
(2) irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain, including the brain stem is dead.
A determination of death must be made in accordance with accepted medical standards."

This definition was approved by the American Medical Association in 1980 and by the American Bar Association in 1981. Today all fifty states and the District of Columbia follow the UDDA as a legal standard of death.

The issue is going to be with picking the jury.

If over 500 witnesses attest to seeing something happen in a Roman court, it's established as fact.



Also, Pliny & Mohammed mentioned Jesus in their writings.

According to what they have printed here in the program, y'all are going to try to kill him again, when he so rudely interrupts the Battle of Armageddon, but they say the result will be a little different this time. Not a lot of details.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I'm sure it'll be entertaining.

Trolls head MRI????

One man's troll is another man's treasure.

That's okay. You are welcomed to the Otherworld with the Goddess and the Faeries if you don't make the other place.

I believe in Santa Claus even if I can't prove it.

Boy, you Christians are really getting desperate.

I have never tried to disprove it, but as a Christian who is not blessed with the gift of unquestioning faith, and I do think it's a gift, here's what bothers me:

Why did Jesus' appearance change so that even his own disciples did not recognize him after the resurrection (Mark 16:12). If you were a lawyer trying to argue that He did not return to life, wouldn't that passage right there give you a lot of ammunition?

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

McInnis,

I enclosed the heading from a private message I sent to you. The lecture I listened to yesterday had several examples like this one. If there are other posters who are interested, let me know and I will send you a copy also.

A small intro to Simon Greenleaf. In 1842 he wrote the three volumes on evidence to be used in courts in the United States. His volumes are still used in law schools today to teach students how to properly access evidence.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853)
Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen.

Why would a believer or disbeliever even try??? WTF is the point? You either believe or you don't. It's a spiritual thing. Kinda like theoretical quantum physics...
There has been more than one occasion in modern times where a person has been pronounced dead by a physician & then found to be alive while laying in the morgue...If you believe in God, Christ, Mohammed, Allah etc...more power to ya...My personal belief is that religion overall is nothing more than a tool of mans creation in an attempt to gain power over others and it has worked marvelously for that exact purpose & nothing more.

Of course there is another plausible reason....could have been some good shrooms...

You can't prove or disprove the resurrection in court in the USA because you can't examine any witnesses. Hearsay evidence is not admissable.

"There has been more than one occasion in modern times where a person has been pronounced dead by a physician & then found to be alive while laying in the morgue..."

This type of "resurrection" was very common in Europe until the 19th century or so. It's where we get our phrase, "the graveyard shift."

During the Middle Ages, corpses were sometimes disinterred to make room for others. It was sometimes found that the "dead" people had scratched away at their coffins in a futile effort to escape. So...they started burying people with a string attached around their finger. The string led up to a bell on a stick by the grave. Someone was delegated to stay in the graveyard all night for a few days so they could disinter the person if they regainewd consciousness and the bell rang.

Also I believe the original term "wake" referred to a period of watchfulness before they buried the body, to make sure the person had actually died.

A Sarah Silverman fan.

- Tom

They probably wont have me either..... Im no goddess and NOT a fairey so Im not sure what they would do with a slow talking chick from Alabama....LOL

Well Ringman it appears you really are serious with this thread so I'll give you a serious answer. Before you can prove the resurrection you would have to prove he died.

There is sufficient evidence out there if you care to do the research to to questioned whether he even died in the first place. Many historians do not believe he died. If he never died he could not rise from the dead.

Ya but you are highly intelligent and beautiful. That's two big pluses right there.

Well if that is the entry criteria maby they would let me be the doorkeeper or something?? Im keeping my fingers crossed that I will spend the after life with the rest of the good ole Alabama Baptists.

Kat will have plenty of privacy and space because he will put all the Baptist by themselves.

Why do you say that? Its the Church of Christ folks who think they are the only ones going. LOL