Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Could you disprove the resurection of Jesus in a court of law?

Christianity started out being persecuted and had no political backing unlike paganism. It was only offically embraced by Rome after Christian apologists had succinctly shown that paganism was nothing more than manmade mythology. Your political argument fails.



When paganism had the political backing again under Julian, he could not induce the country to go back to paganism even when he used various measures to suppress Christianity. Again your political argument fails. Paganism by this time was recognized for what it was--barbarism, superstition, and mythology.



The extent of Rome's empire was established by the sword while it was still pagan. Any argument used with regard to political power or the sword indicts paganism more than Christianity, as all of the old world empires were pagan and advanced their brand of paganism through conquest.
I agree that when Christianity became established it paganized to a degree with regard to observance of some holidays and some practices. However the fundamentals of true Christianity have always stood on the merits of its own strength from God whether it was persecuted, established, promoted, or tolerated. It has always spread under all these varying conditions unlike paganism which largely died as soon as it was no longer nationally established or protected by the sword.



See Blaine's post.

Additionally I would point out that this argument is nothing but blather. All of the NT was written by the death of the last apostle. The entire NT can be largely constructed from the writings of the early church outside of the manuscripts. Most of it was quoted by men who personally knew the apostles. If you cannot find the truth of God's Word in America, its because you do not want it, or choose to be confused. There are more manuscripts of the NT than any other ancient book (5200), plus early translations and citations from early Christian writers.

You will never find the truth unless you first believe that truth can be found.

Were I making the case that Christianity wasn't correct I would be refuting the post rather than take my ball and running.

I would but you can't with some one who knows nothing about ancient history nor wants to learn because to do so would mean admitting that maybe your religion isn't perfect.

Look I don't know everything either but I willing to learn what I don't know. The Roman Catholic version of Christianity, which was the offical version until the reformation of the 1500's, was one ruthless religion. I subscribed to Christian History magazine for a number of years and they did not white wash Christianity when it was wrong. Christianity is nothing without people and sometimes people do bad things. That's just the way it is.

The McChristianity of today doesn't want to admit this with its Happy Meal of Quick Salvation (ie believe and Jesus and even if you're a triple murderer you'll go to heaven, but the atheist grandma won't).

If no one believed in Jesus, would Jesus still exist? If one sect of Christianity ceases to exist, does that version of God stop existing too?

If God wants to talk to us so badly, why doesn't he create a forum on the internet or get a cell phone? Even if we've got free will it'd be easier that way.

If God wants to talk to us so badly, why doesn't he create a forum on the internet or get a cell phone? Even if we've got free will it'd be easier that way.

Blaine,

Some of us do study, but I remember you discounting this study in our discussion with Bob and Will because I didn't have access to the original autographs. No one has access to those, even you.

you can't with some one who knows nothing about ancient history nor wants to learn

He wrote you a letter. Have you opened it?

He wrote you a letter. Have you opened it?

i couldnt sort it out between all the fraudulant documents the church produced to give themselves power land and money in his name...

Your memory is fuzzy or else you misunderstood. I have never said we shouldn't deeply study the Bible becasue we don't have the original autographs. In fact, I say quite the opposite...........

Is this one the letter you're talking about? Click on the "read" link at the site above.

Penny