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Can't be over till the fat lady sings.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."
Albert Einstein
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Mtnhunter said, "The 7X57, a nostalgic bastard length cartridge who's day in the sun is long over. The 7-08 is the better choice for most hunters and target shooters than the 7X57."
I guess that makes it's siblings, the 6MM Remington and .257 Robts. bastard rounds as well?
He also said, "Ray,
This thread went downhill when you posted "I might add I can make a 7x57 shoot circles around a 7-08, with any bullet" when the 7-08 was not even a part of the discussion?????"
I don't think Ray brought up the 7-08 first. Someone else did, I think. I've seen Ray's description of his 7x57 and he does loading to a much higher level than most because of a decent amount of freebore, if I understood his description correctly
I do have a 7x57, a .280 Rem. and 7Mm Rem. mag., but the 7x57 is the one that usually goes to the party with me. It's he lightest in weight and I'm too old fat and lazy to carry the others any great distance.
Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them.
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olhippie,
Let me bring up a real point of minutiae. Shorter cartridges do have one slight advantage: If used in an equal overl barrel length they have more bore length, which provides slightly more velocity.
For instance, the 7mm-08 case is 2.035" long, while the 7x57 case is 2.235" long. This means a bullet from the 7mm-08 travels 2/10ths of an inch farther in, say, a 22" barrel.
If we accept that, on average, each inch of extra barrel length provides 25-30 fps more velocity, then this extra 2/10ths of an inch provides an extra 5-6 fps.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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olhippie,
Let me bring up a real point of minutiae. Shorter cartridges do have one slight advantage: If used in an equal overl barrel length they have more bore length, which provides slightly more velocity.
For instance, the 7mm-08 case is 2.035" long, while the 7x57 case is 2.235" long. This means a bullet from the 7mm-08 travels 2/10ths of an inch farther in, say, a 22" barrel.
If we accept that, on average, each inch of extra barrel length provides 25-30 fps more velocity, then this extra 2/10ths of an inch provides an extra 5-6 fps. Amen. JB, you pronounced this inane thread offically dead sometime back. Now that 5 or 6 maybe fps ought to be the last shovelfull we have to sprinkle on its tomb. Thanks, Wayne
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Mt. Hunter is taking all this way to seriously so I suggest that we agree to disagree or put up big bucks and make it a bet! I also have my horse tied out back to make a quick getaway..I'm off an running! Hi O Silver away.
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