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The United States saved at least 10,000 lives by thwarting the Brooklyn plan to kill people during rush hour traffic, the attack on the Los Angeles library and numerous others, by using this method.

Watch this video for yourself and decide if lives are worth saving by putting terrorists through discomfort.


Playboy.com journalist Mike Guy underwent waterboarding by a trained member of the U.S. military in the site's new Lab Rat feature.

Guy bet that he could endure more than 15 seconds of the interrogation technique used by the Bush administration on Al Qaeda chief Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah.

Watch the results:


http://content1.clipmarks.com/content/7E8ADC46-F3DD-4D6F-B184-3A07CF501B7C/



Final thoughts: Everyday when you are driving to work or sitting at home without worrying about being killed by a terrorist attack, remember this technique is what may have saved your life.

And remember the military/CIA guys who used the technique had one thing in mind: making sure you only have to worry about mowing your lawn and not have to worry about being murdered by Islamic Fascists.

Here comes about 6 pages from the "give peace a chance" chicks!

It should not even be publically debated. It is not tourture. They had and we needed information that could and did save many American lives. Anyone who says we should not have done it nor should we do it again is a complete fool. Who knows whos loved ones may have been in harms way??? I'm one American not willing to take that risk. If it takes waterboarding to save Americans no problem keep it goin. If our Military, CIA & FBI find that waterboarding don't quite work do what ya gotta do and don't tell me. I'll be fine with it. Can you only imagine the finger pointing and accusations that would be flying if we had endured another attack on American soil!!! F*#k a murdering terrorist. They should have gotten in another business. American have gone soft and it is part of our undoing. 163bc

Wanna REALLY torture someone? Tie them in a chair and make them watch those "reality" shows on TV....... It won't take long, and they'll beg for mercy.

It's amazing what people can convince themselves of. Prior to the Bush administration there would have been no doubt in anyone's mind that water boarding was torture.

gosh.....what could have happened during Bush's presidency to make most people decide there are circumstances where such harsh interrogations might be necessary?

wait, wait...don't tell me.....

Pity.............He looked like a frat boy, but apparently not. Must have been a drop-out.

You want to know what torture is? Seeing, and being dumb enough to actually look at yet another thread involving waterboarding. I'm done.

So you admit it? This is a first. You are making progress, my friend.

you're projecting again...all I admitted is what I've said all along, that this is not even a close call on targets with live intel. harsh away, boys.


will file your protest in the appropriate place, as usual, Hawk.


did you see that Scotland Yard has apparently been doing a little suspect dunking? check Drudge.

Hawk:

I do believe you'd be willing to waterboard SteveNO, just to get him to say "Okay, okay, waterboarding is torture."

And then I suppose you'd have to say, "Oh, Steve, you're only saying that to make the pain stop."

- Tom

Gee, we did it for 30 plus years in training before President Bush was in office and we didn't call it torture. Then again obama (the marxist) and other whinners call it that so there you are...jorge

I wonder if you waterboarded Obama, he'd admit to being an illegal alien, posing as President?

Jorge:

I don't have a problem with "interrogation techniques" that are culturally acceptable to the people we want to interrogate.

Arab terrorists often use cordless electric drills to interrogate prisoners. If that's acceptable to them, and to their religious leaders, I don't see how they have grounds to complain if we use the same technique.

- Tom

I'd sure respect his position on this topic a lot more if he'd admit it's torture.

I assume you're referring to the training (which is by definition not torture) that we gave (and continue to give) our military personnel in preparation for the possibility they are ever captured by regimes that don't respect fundamental human rights as we in the United States do (or did).

Insert broken record here, but since you are either historically ignorant, or so insecure you refuse to admit you are flat wrong, waterboarding as practiced by the japanese & others was to fill our POWs with water until their stomachs were on the verge of exploding then jump on them and kill them. They did that to hundreds.

We waterboarded three (3) terrorists, under the SAME parameters as myself and other military folks here to include medical supervision, suffering no injuries extracted information that saved American lives, perhaps in the thousands. If you can't comprehend there is nothing more to say. jorge

and, parentheses, any president who refused to do so should be impeached.....and if his refusal resulted in a preventable mass murder, he should be tried for treason. How's that.

Hawk,

A couple things you might not have considered:

- The supporters of waterboarding emphasize saving thousands of American lives. Doubtless, thousands of 'combatants' lives are also saved. Information resulting in preemptive action certainly cut into the "Shock & Awe" campaigns.

- You consider waterboarding torture yet you support brainwashing a man, stripping him of his beliefs, his pride, his convictions - everything that makes him a man. You support twisting his mind to your benefit over the course of months.

If captured, I'd choose waterboarding and my dignity.

I agree with you that it is a form of torture, but I don't care, torture away.