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Lots of folk have been running out since the election to buy expensive black rifles, as if there weren't already Guv'mint microchips in 'em, and as if the BATF won't play special attention to THOSE yellow forms.... HA! I have done you all one better Tho it ain't actually black... ...or rifled... ...or even considered a firearm in most States. In fact it works sorta like a zippo lighter (pretty clever idea, I'm surprised more folks ain't picked up on it yet). Near as I can tell using American components, all assembled by a skilled American Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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In my pocket. It uses these little paper bundles of powder with a big lead ball in 'em. You just bite the paper, sprinkle a little powder into the dish in that lighter-looking thing, and drop everything else down that big hole at the end of the barrel Amazing!
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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now that, birdy, is a work of art. truly beautiful.
let's go shoot it! or can you find any powder? want me to unloosen a few 06 rounds?
-tom
Wag More. Bark Less.
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Very nice!
Now, please tell me your possibles bag is in multicam!? grin
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I've got a home made assault rifle too. 200 years obsolete.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson, 1776
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A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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What shreck said! Very nice black rifle!
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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Now THAT is a nice black rifle! And you won't need to worry about buying a case of ammo for it with the ammo shrtage going on.
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Awesome, Birdwatcher. What are the details?
Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost
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I'm being forced to choose between an AR15 and a Ruger .22-250 bolt-action. To be used for sport and small~medium game. I intend to reload for more fun. I have dies for both. ARs are going for $475~525, while the Ruger is asking $595. ARs are plentiful and polymer. Ruger is nice zebra-stripe wood. Have seen no other like it in 6 gun-shops. Neither has a scope. Which would you suggest, and why. I'll buy one this week. Thanks
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Geez, when I aimed you at Ticonderoga last June, I guess I contributed to the delinquency of a looney
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Yepper... cause and effect 'Twin, it all went downhill from there...
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That'll teach ya to listen to me! Good thing for you that ya wuzn't hanging around me long enuff to light off a few from the Sharps! You'd REALLY be screwed then
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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When Flints are outlawed,
Only outlaws will have fire.
I said that.
GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Its a fowler from TVM... http://www.avsia.com/tvm/20 gage (.615 cal), 42" smooth bore, base grade maple stock. Colonial Virginia lock (1" flint) instead of standard Siler (3/4" flint) http://flintlocks.com/locks4.htmWeighs a bit over 7 lbs, you get to pick the length of pull, the wait is about six months. I went with the base grade stock on account of fine grain weren't valued much back then, especially on workingman's guns. But for about another $100 you can get a gun that is knocked out of the ballpark pretty. Versatile as a shotgun and period-correct from the French and Indian War through the end of the Fur Trade. I woulda preferred dull steel furniture, but that didn't appear until the late 1700's. Rifles get all the attention, but it turns out that smoothbores were more usual. Even "smooth rifles" (smoothbores that look just like Kentucky rifles) outnumbered their rifled equivalents in the hands of settlers, even in Rev. War "rifle" units. There's good evidence suggesting that it was actually the Indian trade with Pennsylvania that drove the development of the rifled longrifle, http://www.americanlongrifles.com/american-longrifle-kentucky-rifle-story.htm We know that Indians along the Ohio had rifles by the 1750's and valued them highly, our own longhunters maybe copying the Indians in that preference a generation later. In the meantime I got me an "everyman, everywhere gun", correct for Ticonderoga thru the Alamo, that could have showed up in the hands of most anybody. I intend to work up round ball loads for it. And with shot I'll finally have a good excuse for all them doves I've been missing. In fact, I'm gonna miss with class... Now I have to go out and put honest wear on it, they say too that rubbing used patches on all that shiny brass will get it functionally dull pretty quick. Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Very nice. Those can be a lot of fun.
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Birdwatcher, nice piece you have there. Use it well.
On the matter of smoothbores and contrary to what most think, it was the shotgun that won the west, not all the other popular misconceptions. Average Joe settler had a smoothbore and they outnumbered the other by fair margin. It was smoothbores that predominated in Washington's Army as well, although he did recruit frontier riflemen early in the conflict, much to the dismay of the Redcoats. Different concepts employed in different fashion. The rifles cut a wide swath through the Officer ranks in the King's Army FWIW.
Lest anyone be confused on the subject, flintlocks won the most important war ever fought.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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If I hadn't had all my guns turned into slag at the smelter I'd still have this black rifle.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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