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Bite me <grin>...

I like variables. I do have a couple fixed powers.

I went into the gunshop to buy a fixed 4x for my .358 BLR a few years ago... and after a direct comparo, found that the Leupold 2.5x8 was a superior optic, set at 4x, compared to the Leupold 4x I was comparing it to! Better eye box, eye relief, field of view, just a more comfortable scope to be behind- for ME.

That was a head scratcher, but I just believed what I was seeing and bought yet another 2.5x8. I mostly keep them set somewhere around 2.5-4x, and just turn them up if I need to, which is rare. Sometimes turning them up has "put horns" on a deer I couldn't suss out at 3x (or whatever). Sometimes it's helped me see through the brush and find a shooting lane better.

I could, I think, do just fine with a fixed 4x but I choose not to.

BobinNH, my recent experience with my 1.8-5.5 Zeiss has me that much more interested in a Conquest 4x. Are you still liking the ones you bought?

You boys will give me credit one of these days. Sniffed Jeff out from the get go and caught lots of grief for it.


Ain't good at much but I can read sign.

I have a sign you could read, but I'm not sure how to post it.

Posting pics should be easy for a 2009 kinda guy.

See, just like this

Never were an ass kisser, surprises me none from you.

Klik: Excellent post and well stated!Insecurity sells a lot of gear

I have nothing against variables and use them myself.But I have serious doubts when someone tells me that variables are absolutely essential for success,and a guy is living in the dim past if he does not use one.Hunters with any experience know that is just pure BS........

Nobody said that variables are absolutely essential for success. The facts are that they are just as good as fixed, cheaper than fixed, and provide more versatility.

They aren't your daddy's variables.

Guess that's ONE way to describe getting your butt kicked fair and square in several Internet pissin' match that YOU started...

However. Gotta give credit where due, you do hold a mean grudge, and good faith has no meaning to you, which lets you distort what folks say and otherwise act in disreputable ways that do make you a real PITA to rassle with. You are pretty good at being bad.

GRIN

The wheels on the bus go round and round.......

Whatever advances have been made in the arena of variables... are also applicable to fixed glass. And, resolution trumps magnification all day long... just cause it's 9x, doesn't mean you can see schitt better than another scope at 6x.

These ain't your daddy's muskets.

It would appear JO is officially delusional and is now living in a fantasy world. Actually nothing new. Holy smokes.

Precisely why they are used in BR events when having to make weight limits for your class...



Who said they were new scopes...I still have and use scopes that I bought new in the late 1960s and 70s and they weren't old wives tales but actual fact, they didn't hold their zero, clicks were hard and not very precise, I've had end glass fall out of scopes and interior glass fall partially over, fogging and a whole slew of other events...

Oh, and fixed power scopes of the same lens opening and tube diameter are usually brighter then variables of comparable price/make!

Thanks for the advice....I'll try to remember this. I appreciate it

By "just as good", I assume you mean just as rugged and dependable?Have you ever broken one by shooting the rifle under it?

Just out of idle curiosity,have you ever killed a big game animal with a variable by turning the power ring to make a shot that you would have been unable to make with a fixed power? Have you used any fixed powers for any hunting?

Just wondering.....

Some like to fiddle with the proverbial controls...

I own fixed X scopes by leupold, s&b and swarovski. for the s&b, I bought the 6x42 'cause it was $500 less than the variable and figured that most of my shots are going to be at 6x or close anyway. if he needs a 4x scope, not sure if the s&b is worth all the money for close range shooting. almost any 4x would be fine. if you go to the s&b 6x42, now you are talkin'!

I have a 8x56 swarovski PH, again, bought the 8x cause it was $400 less than the variable and it works just fine as a fixed-stand set up. it sits atop a 240 wby mag

I really dont see how you could go wrong with a leupy 6x42 FXII, I have a couple and that scope would be my second choice if I could only hunt with one scope, no matter where. my first choice would be the s&b 6x42, a really nice scope. I have one on a 300 wsm and a 25-06 and dont feel "under scoped" when I tread outdoors.

I have never had a variable break from shooting.

I have changed the magnification on scopes frequently while hunting and in particular for up close woods shooting.

I started with fixed powers. My first centerfire was scoped with a Lyman 6X Wolverine. I still have that scope. Of the scopes in the drawer here not in use most are fixed magnifications in 6X.

Those 6X scopes have too much power for finding a moving deer at woods ranges. I don't need that much magnification.

I'm imagining the FX-II 2.5 UL as the shizzle for a trim rig, good for most MPBR medium game cartridges. I've just about talked myself out of the 2-7x33. If Ruger would only make light weight rings.

I would buy a bunch of LW rings...