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With such a traditional caliber I feel the shadow of the old hunters walk with me when I take it out. They bolt mounted aperture enhances that feeling.
Von Gruff. Well said.Very well said... It lends that one tiny facet to the sport the WSM guys don't get... Ingwe
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Historical perspective is sometimes lacking on here,big time...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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With such a traditional caliber I feel the shadow of the old hunters walk with me when I take it out. They bolt mounted aperture enhances that feeling.
Von Gruff. Well said.Very well said... It lends that one tiny facet to the sport the WSM guys don't get... Ingwe I agree! I don't want this taken the wrong way but it seems to me some people are more shooters and some are more hunters and most are somewhere in between. I enjoy hunting and seeing how close I can stalk, other like using their shooting skill from 500 yards. Just my thoughts. ddj
Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. - Henry David Thoreau
The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back. - Robert Ruark
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I agree! I don't want this taken the wrong way but it seems to me some people are more shooters and some are more hunters and most are somewhere in between. I enjoy hunting and seeing how close I can stalk, other like using their shooting skill from 500 yards. Just my thoughts.
ddj
I think its those "in between" guys the 7x57 suits the most, its very versatile, and for those of us who like to cling to some bit of nostalgia...it fills the bill. As I have posted before... No-stalgia is Good-stalgia ! Ingwe
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As one old friend that is long gone once told me: Shooters don't hunt and hunters don't shoot. Probably doesn't apply to most of the people here, but I would say it's pretty close for the average citizen.
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65BR...the one with the goat is a Mountain rifle....and FWIW to the post, I've always been a heavy boolit guy...I like the 160s on up... Ingwe My bad, I knew it was not an Ultra Light Ruger though the stock resembles it, and the Classic 700s never had the black tip, had not known about the 57 MR, had a 270 long ago in college. My first rifle was a 7Mag, used 160 BTSP Sierras, loaded around 2860, shot great. Likely your pushing 2700+ knocking close to my loads, likely just as useful to 300+ yds I'd reckon. Surprised you did not use 120 Btips on the goat, but you likely stalk closer with a light rifle? I think Sam Fadala used to like to stalk goats ie. Old lever 30/30s with irons and #1 7x57 in 1A IIRC. Shot a few with a L461 Sako in 6mm/222 as well with 80gr Speers. Wonder if he is still around.
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A Charles Daly circa 1932,
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Surprised you did not use 120 Btips on the goat, but you likely stalk closer with a light rifle?
Nope, the goat got it with 162 gr Hornady...at 325 yds.... thats the load the MR 700 liked, so thats what it got... Ingwe
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Thats Chas. Daly makes me all twitchy... Ingwe
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Mpetrov: What is a "Charles Daly"? was it a custom rifle shop originally? Had not heard of it....
Those are sweet rifles BTW.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Charles Daly was a brand name used by an importing firm in which Daly was one of the partners, starting in the late 1800s. The firm has been through multiple ownerships but has continued to use the name.
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Thanks, Steve. I'd heard of the shotguns back through the 70's but had no idea they imported rifles going back that far,or of that quality.Interesting.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I bought a Ruger M77 7X57 in 1974 when i was 14 with my summer job money - added a weaver 2X7 which went bad fast - replaced it with a 3X9 Burris in 1979 that scope is still on it.
It has killed many deer - and a few coyotes, nothing bigger.
I love it and so I bought a second M77 in 7 Mauser last year, the orignial model NIB for $425.00 - so far it is a safe queen, but i handloaded over a thousand rounds for the twon rifles this winter.
I use Federal ammo for hunting, but used rem in the early days - I have shot lots of S&B and Prizi Partisan ammo too. Well over two thousand rounds through a hunting rifle.
Maybe the old dog will get an elk this year. We will see.
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I bought a Ruger M77 7X57 in 1974 when i was 14 with my summer job money.....I love it and so I bought a second M77 in 7 Mauser last year, the orignial model NIB for $425.00... I'll give you $450 for it. -
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If you want a great looking and shooting 7x57, check this one out for sale on GB. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=134161056I have one in 30-06 or I would be after this one. Also have 7x57 M98 in the shop for custom bases or I WOULD buy this rifle. I hope someone here here gets it. Richard
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I have a Ruger No. 1. I also have an Interarms Mark X Mauser, 20" barrel, bedded in a McMillan Stock...shoots bug-holes...
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Hi,
The 7x57, along de .375 H&H, are my favorites!
I have two 7x57:
1- DWM Original Sporting Mauser. 1893 action. Not a military one. My first Big Game Rifle. From my Greatgrandfather. 2- 1935 Mauser with military mint barrel and modified military stock. Both wear 4x32 Zeiss/Hendsoldt Diatal.
I have posted this rifles here, some months ago.
Best regards,
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Charles Daly's name first appeared on firearms around 1875 after he and partner August Shoverling began importing hardware, sporting goods and eventually firearms in New York City. Joined by Joseph Gales several years later, the company became knows as Shoverling, Daly & Gales, a name the company would retain for quite some time. Shoverling, Daly & Gales thrived through the late 19th and early 20th century while the Charles Daly name earned a reputation for excellence by importing or selling firearms from such companies as Schiller, Linder , later Heym and Sauer of Germany, J&W Tolley of England, Newman of Belgium and Lefever Arms of New York. Charles Daly passed away unexpectedly in 1899 but the company continued on under the partnership that by then included his son, Charles Howard Daly.
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Mpetrov: What is a "Charles Daly"? was it a custom rifle shop originally? Had not heard of it....Those are sweet rifles BTW. Schoverling, Daly & Gales had earned a very good reputation selling the �Prussian-Daly� shotguns one of the finest made boxlock shotguns of the day, the best were made by Lindner. They had some custom rifles made in Germany and although there was no �Prussia� in 1932 they marked them as such. In twenty-five years of looking I�ve seen less than half-dozen. They were made in .250-3000, 7mm & .30-06 and sold for $150. I have not been able to learn who made the rifles.
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