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i have been shooting 150gr hornady interlok and imr 4064 and h4895 in 30-06 at whitetails here in pa and never had a problem

61 gr RL-19... 2950 fps. Over max load so reduce 10% and work your way up.

I've never NOT recovered a deer in over 33 yrs of deer hunting using 165 gr Hornady BTSPs. I guess if I used 150 grainers I would have been screwed.

Sumpin aint right....

I read some jimdandies online in my years but this one ranks right up there. Did they bounce off? I usually have problems finding deer I miss as well...funny how that works.

it is a jimdandy for sure.

There does seem to be a correlation there, I've had the same thing happen!
Ingwe

OK I can take a ribbing. Maybe they were not behind the shoulder. 3 of the deer were knocked down on there side and 2 of the deer kicked there hind legs over there head. There was minimal blood trail on all the deer. I am very confident in my shooting. Im not the greatest shot & im sure there are alot better than me. With the BT the next 5 deer were shot behind the shoulder and dropped each one in there tracks. Both bullets are factory weatherby ammunition. The SP grouped .5 inch @ 100yds. BT grouped 1 inch @ 100 yds. SP= 3245 Velocity/ BT =3300 Velocity. 26" Barrel.

Glad you can take a ribbing, cause some of the boys might not be done with you.
So what was the original question? Are 150 gr Hornadys too tough for Bambi in the .270 Wby? No. But in my opinion, Ballistic Tips are a better choice. And I'm guessing you got the velocities bassackwards.

Thats ok Im a good sport. I got the velocity from the weatherby website.

I see, I just read them bassackwords

Those may indicate a gut shot. I've had factory Winchester Super X(?) 30-06 bullets fragment on close range broadside shots with no exit wound. Deer were recovered though. Just not as quickly as expeccted. If you don't have confidense in the bullet quit using them regardless of public opinion. There are some things that just defy logic and should be eliminated. The last thing you want in the field is doubt in your equipment.

I've been shooting .308 150 and 165 grain Hornady SP's over H4895 at deer for 9 seasons now. I have no complaints. The original inspiration came from asking a question on shooters.com when I first got into reloading. A lot of those guys came over here. I am forever thankful for that advice. I now shoot the 165 Hornady SP in a bunch of rifles and a bunch of cartridges.

I have killed more than several deer with this bullet and it always performed great, I don't have a clue what happened in your case.............547.

Chances are the deer were lost to "gut shots". I would be ready to bet serious money on it. If you start out aiming "behind the shoulder" and the deer takes a step or you miss a little, you could have trouble. If you study the various deer anatomy pictures on the web, you will see that the lungs angle up and away from the "elbow". For a lung shot, the place to aim on a broadside deer is the crease of the shoulder with the vertical crosshair hugging the rear of front leg. Never intentionally aim any farther back than that.

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Thanks for everyone's input. Im really starting to think the scope was off. Like I said I switched to the Nosler Ballistic Tips on my next trip and killed the next 5 deer DRT.I never shot the SP to see if the scope was off after my first trip. {the crease of the shoulder with the vertical crosshair hugging the rear of front leg} is what I meant by "behind the shoulder".
I harvested 22 out of 27 deer last year (I live in NJ and im allowed to shoot 2 deer at a time.) The only lost deer were the 5 with the SP's. Like I said maybe the scope was off or I just really screwed up. I will try them again .

Just got off the phone with Hornady. The tec said the 150 gr. was to heavy for whitetail and does not open up on a thin skinned animals. They reccomend this bullet for elk sized game. He said the 130 gr. is much better for whitetail and pronghorn. They claim the percentage of weight retention in the 150's is to much, almost acting as a "solid" for thin skinned animals. Where the 20 grain differnce makes the 130's open up to the interlok.

I'm not so sure about what the tech told you. There are lots of folks successfully using 150 grain Interlocks in 270 Winchesters on deer, and your Weatherby would only cause the bullets to open more.

Thats what I was thinking. I was just repeating what the tec said.

The tech told you what you wanted to hear, what any good tech would do:)

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Deer or not, at the Weatherby's velocities, it should have no problem opening up.