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ahh, another interesting subject to start. seems the 6.8 spc is gaining momentum again. there are several loadings available from ssa for it, and my best friend tried out the tsx loadings a few years ago. what say you on the effectiveness of it on elk ?? a nice short, light, ar15, for humpin the mountains with quick follow up shots if needed.. proof it works..
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I personally think the military simply reinvented the wheel again at a HUGE expense to tax payers, just as they did with the new .30 RAR. The finest military/hunting rounds have been around for 50-100 years and they suddenly come up with a new version that accomplishes what has already been acheived???? The .308, 7mm-08, .243, 7x57 and .260's are FAR better rounds and are proven on the battle field and in the hunting fields around the world. The 6.8 SPC is the answer to a question nobody asked. I would MUCH rather carry an AR in any of the above rounds vs. a 6.8 SPC, but that is just me. Sure it will get the job done, but there are much better mouse traps. Flinch
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Give me a .260 over a 6.8 any day any time.
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The 6.8 SPC is the answer to a question nobody asked. I would MUCH rather carry an AR in any of the above rounds vs. a 6.8 SPC, but that is just me. Sure it will get the job done, but there are much better mouse traps. Flinch As an owner of ARs in .223, 6.8 and .308 calibers, I couldn't disagree with you more. The 6.8 is not an "answer to a question nobody asked"! The rounds you mentioned will not fit in an AR-15 action. They require an AR-10 or LR-308 action, which is bigger and weighs several pounds more. I can and do carry my 6.8SPC AR-15 all day long, and when I do the same with either of my .308s, I definitely notice the difference. The 6.8 works very well on whitetails, and it is easy to carry all day. I've no experience using it on elk, but it definitely wouldn't be my first choice. The 6.8 definitely has a purpose - to fit a big game-capable round in the AR-15 action. Regards, Scott
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I don't know --- it lacks that certain "je ne sais quoi".
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As an owner of ARs in .223, 6.8 and .308 calibers, I couldn't disagree with you more. The 6.8 is not an "answer to a question nobody asked"! The rounds you mentioned will not fit in an AR-15 action. They require an AR-10 or LR-308 action, which is bigger and weighs several pounds more. I can and do carry my 6.8SPC AR-15 all day long, and when I do the same with either of my .308s, I definitely notice the difference.
The 6.8 works very well on whitetails, and it is easy to carry all day. I've no experience using it on elk, but it definitely wouldn't be my first choice.
I agree with everything you said, except I think the 6.8 SPC should have been skipped in favor of the 6.5 Grendel. If I had to hunt elk with an AR, I think you'd be far better off with the Grendel using a 120 gr. TTSX, 130 gr. Scirocco, or 130 gr. Accubond. I also agree with other posters, though, that a .260 or 6.5x55 would be an even better idea. Me, I'd take at least a 7mm WSM...no fast followups required. Now, I will say I see the Grendel as a fine 'yote and hog round! :-)
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"I don't know --- it lacks that certain "je ne sais quoi". What did you say? I don't speak Spanish. Randy
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Looks more like french to me.
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Really? You are like the smartest dude I don't know.
Notice the crazy face.
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
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Really? you are like the dumbest dude I dont know!
Notice I dont give a flying flip what you think........
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Come to think of it, I think that's the first AR type rifle I've seen posed with a dead elk.
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Think I'd rather have a 270.
I'm pretty dumb, too.
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The 6.8 is a good alternative to the 223 in the AR Platform, but is on the small or very light side when it comes to animal as big as Elk. I'm sure it will work with the right shot but so will just about any small cal rifle. I have been try to find me a Stag LH upper in 6.8 with the heavy barrel, but Stag has over a 6 month wait. I would use the 6.8 for Elk if i had nothing else but it wouldn't be my first or second choice. I would much rather have my Winchester 94 in 30-30 than the 6.8, but this is me. My opinion use whatever suits you.
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Hey Tom264:
I only am interested in 2 forums on campfire. Savage collectors and elk, but whenever I surf around I see you crackin' skulls with somebody on every single forum.
What's up with that?
I'm going to make you a deal. How's about you don't respond to anymore of my posts and I'll extend the same professional courtesy to you.
Get a life.
Randy
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ahh, another interesting subject to start. seems the 6.8 spc is gaining momentum again. there are several loadings available from ssa for it, and my best friend tried out the tsx loadings a few years ago. what say you on the effectiveness of it on elk ?? a nice short, light, ar15, for humpin the mountains with quick follow up shots if needed.. proof it works.. Started killing elk with a 270 almost 40 years ago............ Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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If a guy jus HAD to run a semi-auto for elk... Seems like a BAR Shorttrac in .308 couldn't weigh much more than an AR. No? For me, the recoil of any decent "elk" round is enough that I have time to cycle a lever or even bolt, before the rifle settles back down. I find that the act of cycling an action helps me reset my targeting computer too. I've owned 3 .308 battle rifles; this is true and verified for me anyway. ... which brings me around to MY solution to the quick-followup-on-elk "problem", if there is one.. A Browning BLR in .325 WSM. I can cycle it as fast as I can shoot a semi .308- at least ACCURATLY.
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I find that the act of cycling an action helps me reset my targeting computer too. Dead on........ Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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Go back and check your posts 99guy....you are the one who started it with me with your attitude and havent quit since.....as far as me butting heads with others...its none of your business!
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