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Can owners of the Tikka T3 Lite give the "Pros and Cons" of the rifle?
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Pros... does not weight much, great price for what you get and most important... VERY accurate.
Cons... For what I bought the gun for (a gun to hunt in bad weather with) to me there are none... I cna live with the plastic....
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I've got the exact rifle you inquire about in .308. Cons are pretty much aesthetic. To some it's just too "plasticy" in both look and feel. I also replaced the factory recoil pad with a limbsaver since the factory one isn't all that. The factory rings aren't terribly appealing but many people use them without complaint. I put Dednutz on mine.
Otherwise, it's easily one of the best deals going.
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pros: accurate, light, great price, smooth action, and well made
cons: cheap rings and stock has a hollow sound to it.
neither con bothers me
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I have two and have had another previously. The pro's are pretty much undisputed: accurate with an accuracy guarantee, light weight, a bolt feed so smooth you'll check to see if a round was really chambered, supplied scope mounts, great trigger out of the box and easily adjusted if you wish it lighter, comparatively low cost for those attributes.
Cons are subject to personal opinion but the most frequently heard are the amount of synthetic material (plastic) in construction, clip fed, can't load mag without removal from the gun (you may hear that you can't single load using the ejection port: that is not true), made outside the USA, rusting of rough finished stainless, high cost of replacement mags.
I'd add I like the balance and way it comes to shoulder. I also like the versatility of scope mounting with the receiver grooves as well as D&T'd.
They're nice rifles. You should try one and find out for yourself.
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I really like my plastic T3.223.
Pros: Accuracy, smooth bolt and feeding, light weight, good trigger, good price
Cons: Does not like to be top fed
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ive got two. the older one "feels" a lot more sturdy and the plastic is much better constructed. but the newer one feeds from the top much more easily. they both shoot awesome. and i would say the rings one the older one are way nicer than the new one (need to replace with something else). if they combined the two different designs you would have a sako and they would cost a lot more.
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Pros:
Accurate, Sako Barrel, Wonderful trigger that adjusts with an allen wrench without the necessity of even removing the stock to a very crisp 2lbs, slick action, feeds perfect, light weight, nice balance with good beef in the barrel, bargain...plus...the barrels are of such quality that they shoot everything well - least finicky rifle I've messed with - so they will shoot just about anything you want them to.
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Plastic, Tupperware, no top load, not crazy about detachable mags, hard factory recoil pads that need replacing on rifles with much recoil...one size fits all action - so you might as well run a long action - you're going to carry it anyway...(but I have a 223 just because it's so handy - shoots everything heavy and light sub moa.)
All in all - great rifles for the money, IMHO. A 30-06 would probably cover lots of bases since it will likely shoot 130's to 200's very accurately, but I think a 25-06 or 270 is about the perfect fit for a SS T3.
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Only own one, but it is accurate,smoothaction, clean adjustable trigger that at three pounds feels light. Light to carry but that lightness does not yet feel comfortable to shoot offhand. That is not felt when shooting game though.
The mags are expensive, but fie shot available for 30-06 size cases, and I have only shot one round at game at a time because the rounds go exactly where you want them to.
Buy one, you will get over the plastic bits.
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I just picked one up in a 6.5X55. I have yet to shoot it, but it feels like a decent rifle for the money.
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I have two T-3's. One is a 223 in heavy barrel and shoots very well. 2nd is 300WSM and it is blue.
PRO's: Triggers are exellent, light and easy to carry, from a bench you can feed top, very accurate, recoil pads are ok because I use a PAST pad at the bench and heavy coat when hunting so no problem.
Con's: Plastic clip is crap and expensive for 2nd and that is all I have.
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I bought one last year for hunting in crappy weather, although I've been carrying it on some groundhog hunts this summer. It's very accurate, light, fits me nicely.
I don't like the detachable magazine but that is probably because I'm not used to it, the rest of my big game rifles are floorplate or blinds. I also don't like the way the action wraps over the top of the bolt as I can't stick my thumb between the bolt and scope when I'm carrying it one handed.
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Pro's...
They're hands down the best factory rifle on the shelf today in the sub 1K price point. I'd still onw one, but my brother needed a solid sporter and I ran out of room in the gunsafe. Next time I got spending money I intend to buy another one...
Cons? They're about as graceful as a ballerina with Tourettes Syndrome. They're a one size fits all action (which isn't a problem if you like LA calibers) The mag capacity is only 3 rounds, which really isn't an issue if you know how to shoot critters (I can't remember the last time I needed more than two)
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Same Pro's most others mentioned. The only difference from me is that I have no problem feeding mine (300WM) from the top.
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The T3 loads and chambers rounds from the top just fine one at a time. You can't, or at least I can't, charge the mag from the top. It's so easy to pop out and load I can't see how this is a serious detraction, though.
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I had one in .270 wsm when they first cam out, but could'nt get over the stock. I even filled the stock with pillow stuffing to make it sound less hollow, but got rid of it after a few months. If they would put a nice light stock on them, I would buy another tomorrow!!! Shot very good with factory ammo!!
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pros: accurate, light, great price, smooth action, and well made
cons: cheap rings and stock has a hollow sound to it.
neither con bothers me I do not often tap the stock while hunting on my T3 30 06. But seriously great trigger, and barrel. My 06 needed a recoil pad. Installed when I bought the gun, a must. Sub 1" groups with 2 types of factory ammo. Sub 3/4 with my 1st handload. The clip I have no issues. I do not carry a spare set of keys, a spare bolt or clip for my gun. Should I??? A spare clip costs a round of golf. Or 1 hour OT after taxes.
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I like the light weight without having a real skinny barrel. Skinny barrel rifles are difficult for me to shoot well offhand, but not my Tikka. It is accurate, and so far I have no problem with any of the plastic parts. Even the detachable magazine is OK as it fits snug and does not rattle. And as has been mentioned, when it feeds a cartridge you can not even feel it happening. Sweet.
I don't like the rings, I have never had much luck with aluminum rings, I use Conetrols on the Tikka. And I guess I am the only one that ever bought a Tikka that has a lousy trigger. Blah, blah, blah from everybody about the great trigger...mine sucks. It is adjustable for pull weight only, and has lots of creep and overtravel. Before I could find a replacement / aftermarket trigger, I shot the rifle enough that I have gotten used to it so I will shoot it as is.
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Spot on.......exactly my thoughts. Most "cons" that I read about anyway have more to do with "looks" and material rather than reliability and accuracy. A bit of the same hit that Glock gets....and we know how unreliable and inaccurate they are....  . A "fine" firearm can be defined in many ways as it means many different things to many people. All my T3's are SS/SYN and/or SS/Laminated and I consider them ALL to be "fine" rifles indeed. But "fine" to me means both easy to wield, comes to my shoulder well, accurate and totally reliable. Yep....these rifles fit everything I desire in a huntin' rifle. They're just "fine" by me, as are several others. Good luck on this venture...........
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Pro: Hunts out of the box, shoots crazy well.
Con: No soul.
I'm not hanging it on my mantle, so I love 'em.
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I have two of the Tikka T3s ss syn. One is a 223 and the other a 270 win and I am very fond of both. The are accurate as hell and easy to carry. The only thing I would suggest is a precision fit limbsaver recoil pad (they fit really well) and Talley one piece rings. I also had my stock painted which helps the plastic "feel" but the regular stock is nice to beat up on and you don't have to worry about it.
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The pros & cons have been said....you guys that don't have one should go buy one & try it out...I introduced two of my shooting/hunting friends to the Tikka T3 just today...a SS/syn Swede & a syn/blue 308....first con comment..what a cheesy magazine from the 308 buyer....the Swede buyer after wiping the drool off the super slick bolt action...said 'I like it'...'The bolt feels like its on ball bearings'......I told them both...try my handloads in each one and see how they shoot....Again for the $$ out lay...just get past the space age plastic trigger gaurd/magazine & bolt shroud...go shoot it & hunt with it...its a $600 tool....use it...whats not to like about a laminated/SS 6.5x55 Swede as in pic ? ![[Linked Image]](http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6391/tikka65x55002.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8158/tikka65x55005.jpg)
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The laminated ones are a bit heavy... But hey, I know a guy that dries Birch for Rutland Plywood. Us old Dryer Tenders stick together  You won't find a denser or more stable stock than A grade 1/12" thick laminated birch. You can beat hippies to death with that stock and not lose your zero (if you're running a Loopy)
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pros: accurate, light, great price, smooth action, and well made
cons: cheap rings and stock has a hollow sound to it.
neither con bothers me Cheap rings can be replaced. I swapped mine out for a set of Warne's. Hollow stock sounds like bull meese when hit with brush. I think this'll work to my advantage. However, if it's not for you there's always a can of expanding foam to be found at Home Despot to fill in the voids. I found that a Limbsaver really is.
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Pro - super accurate with just about any ammo, light weight, great trigger, made to use and abuse, and magazine load
Cons - change to limbsaver recoil pad and stuff the stock with styrofoam packing peanuts, and use different rings if your inclinded to.
Great gun in a lot of calibers. Accurate out of the box with no tweaking. Camo'd my .308 and use it all the time.
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Somewhat my thinkin' as well, as to the "bit heavy", but when compared to the stats of a standard T3 syn stock, the laminated is said to be only 1/2 lb. heavier. So, movin' up only 1/2 lb. from a really light feelin' syn stocked T3 to their laminated version.....it really isn't much gain in weight. Still lighter than many offerings/brands out there......inclusive of syn's, laminated and traditional wood stocks.
The T3's syn stocks clearly work well and make for an easy to carry, all day long rifle. The laminated versions don't slow one down all that much in that catagory, but they definitely have more of a heft to them. When chambered in harder kickin' cartridges, the laminated versions seem about perfect for me. Owning the 270WSM and 300WSM in T3 Laminated with both employing near or max loads, I feel it works well for me. I owned both these cartridges in T3 synthetics prior to purchasing the laminates (I liked the lams looks better) and they were never punishing....far from it. Just made one of those "loonie" changes, whether necessary or not. Hard to beat the looks and efficiency of a laminated stock......IMHO.
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I have a T3 ss/syn in 270 win and right now it is my only big game rifle and a constant range companion. I have over 400 rounds down the tube and never had a single real issue with it. It has been on every hunt I have been on since I got it and helped me take my first big game animal , a rag-horn bull elk in 2007 at 120 yards.
Pro: A joy to carry, shoots better than guns costing many many times more than it, Despite its "cheap" plastic parts I have never been able to do anything to harm it, Feeds so smooth some times I have to make sure it actually cycled a round (it always does). Trigger is fantastic and fully/ easily adjustable
Cons: mostly due to its extreme light weight: Hard to hold steady while standing/ sitting (a real sling helps), the factory recoil pad is a joke and mine was not pleasant to shoot untill I put a Limb Saver on it, If you get one in a good all around cartridge it becomes harder and harder to justify buying another rifle because it will unlikely do anything much better than the T3.
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They are the Glock of hunting rifles. Reliable, light, non-traditional, low on aesthetics.
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I've got one in 300 win mag and it doesn't shoot for crap... ![[Linked Image]](http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv88/kraky11/DSC00663.jpg)
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T3 Lite ss/syn .338 Fed w/LA bolt stop & magazine.
Pro: Accurate, light weight, excellent trigger.
Con: factory rings stink. mags are a bit spendy.
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Very old post but here it goes. I bought my 14 yr old son a Tikka t3 in .270 win. Read the pros and cons. All seem fair. Pros= what everyone else said. Cons= why do they even bother with that pos recoil pad? With a gun that light it's a must to have a good pad.. I would have bought the Marlin xl7 but the gun dealer said Tikka was way better. I;m not so sure, at least they have a real recoil pad. I like the gun except made over seas and recoil pad.
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Cons: Plastic construction, very expensive detacable magazines,foreign made.
I'd buy the Marlin.
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Cons: Plastic construction, very expensive detacable magazines,foreign made.
I'd buy the Marlin. Swamp translation....OUtshoots any POS I own.
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Chuck makes some excellent points here. If you want a plastic deer rifle the Tikka might be it. For $350.00 you can buy something better. http://www.chuckhawks.com/critical_look_T3.htm
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Pros- Incredibly Accurate, Feeding is the smoothest of any rifle out there, excellent trigger
Cons- Scope mounts could be better, recoil pad needs changed.
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Chuck Hawks, Randy Wakeman are stooges of the highest order...when you grow up you can be part of that elite group.
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I have owned a Tikka neither you or Chuck have..that trumps your knowledge and his. Your Remingtons can't run with one.
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I have two. Not my favorites by any means, but they'll get the job done.
Pros: Light, slick action, descent trigger out of the box.
Cons: My two shoot OK with their pet loads, Plastic mags, Poor recoil pads, Plastic shroud, Feel cheap, Crappy factory rings.
They're not bad rifles, but I'd spend money on others in that price range.
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I have enough fibbers to take care of.
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I have enough fibbers to take care of. Take a hard look in the mirror when you wake up in the morning..between your mulitple personalities you will find enough fibbers.
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You're one of the fibbers I was talking about.
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Pros:
Accurate, Sako Barrel, Wonderful trigger that adjusts with an allen wrench without the necessity of even removing the stock to a very crisp 2lbs, slick action, feeds perfect, light weight, nice balance with good beef in the barrel, bargain...plus...the barrels are of such quality that they shoot everything well - least finicky rifle I've messed with - so they will shoot just about anything you want them to.
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Plastic, Tupperware, no top load, not crazy about detachable mags, hard factory recoil pads that need replacing on rifles with much recoil...one size fits all action - so you might as well run a long action - you're going to carry it anyway...(but I have a 223 just because it's so handy - shoots everything heavy and light sub moa.)
All in all - great rifles for the money, IMHO. A 30-06 would probably cover lots of bases since it will likely shoot 130's to 200's very accurately, but I think a 25-06 or 270 is about the perfect fit for a SS T3.
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+1, I have em in 6.5x55 and 25-06...great platform for these LA modest recoiling calibers
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You're one of the fibbers I was talking about. Since we are polar opposites I take that as a compliment...In your little cocoon you stopped distinguishing between a lie and the truth a very long time ago. You no longer no the difference.
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I have a T3 lite with synthetic stock and blued barrel/action. I found a deal on them on Gunbroker. It is a lefty in .30-06. I didn't bother with the Tikka rings and put my own on there. When I get a chance, I intend to replace the plastic bolt shroud with an aluminum one. I don't need that breaking at an inopportune time. Other than the rings and bolt shroud, I'm happy as a clam! It's light and accurate. The action is like butter. It would be nice if replacement mags were cheaper, but I guess you can't have everything. I just with they made more models and calibers of it in left hand.
When I get a chance, I'll prolly be picking up a syn/SS in .270 Win.
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Pro: ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/089.jpg)
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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One pro for the Titka is that you can't pick it up with a metal detector.
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Yep kinda like my wifes model 7. Only differance with my Tikka is that mine will shot darn near anything into 1 1/2", handloads well under 1". Also my Tikka was about $250 less than the Model 7. Has a better trigger and a smoother bolt. I did get her rifle to shoot, but had to play with several bullet/powder combo's. Tikka is guarrentied to shot any factory ammo at 1 1/2 MOA what about your Remington's?
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Yep kinda like my wifes model 7. Only differance with my Tikka is that mine will shot darn near anything into 1 1/2", handloads well under 1". Also my Tikka was about $250 less than the Model 7. Has a better trigger and a smoother bolt. I did get her rifle to shoot, but had to play with several bullet/powder combo's. Tikka is guarrentied to shot any factory ammo at 1 1/2 MOA what about your Remington's? This ought to be fun Best not to argue with a handicapped person you may have to answer to a higher authority one day and sm700 is in that category.
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Actually I believe that the guarrenty is 3 shots into 1". Sako's are 5 shots into 1"
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Actually I believe that the guarrenty is 3 shots into 1". Sako's are 5 shots into 1" And We all know about the famous Remington accuracy guarantee. All this tikka talk makes me want to buy one...I like that fluted barrel lightweight they sell at Sportsmens warehouse. All it needs is the aluminum bolt shroud and I am happy.
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I am an M700/M24 series armorer and I recommend Tikkas for an off the shelf rifle.....
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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One pro for the Titka is that you can't pick it up with a metal detector. You're on a roll..
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Like I have said previously SM700 makes most Remington owners ashamed to even own one.
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Any boltaction rifle will shoot 1 1/2 MOA. If it won't do 1/2 that, it should be traded off to someone you dislike.
All my Remington 700s shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box.
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Well my wifes Model 7 would not with factory loaded ammo. My son's Tikka shot the Wally world plain wrap hunting season special 270 Win core locs into .80" right out of the box. My Tikka was about the same. So then I should ass u me that the Remington is POS? Actually I do not think that Remington's are junk, but they are not all that certain poster/posers say they are.
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Any boltaction rifle will shoot 1 1/2 MOA. If it won't do 1/2 that, it should be traded off to someone you dislike.
All my Remington 700s shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box. What happened to that 700 270 that shot 3" groups? LIAR None of your remingtons can run with a box stock Tikka
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All my Remington 700s shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box.
I am throwing the total BULLSH!T flag. Swampy. I have a background not only as an armorer on a [bleep] load of weapon systems, including remingtons, but as the guy who runs the bolt guns in bad places. ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/SanitizedArmoryShot.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/sanitizedeberlestock.jpg) Every .gov/.mil M24 that comes from the custom shop at Remington cannot/does not expect to be 1/2moa gun. These are built from the ground up,custom. Yet your factory sporters are all 1/2 moa guns? You have zero credibility. Period. Wow.
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You have zero credibility. Period. C'mon Makay, you expect us to take your word over Swampy's. Really.....a grocery bagger vs. the Remington expert . George
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What happened to that 700 270 that shot 3" groups? I wouldn't know since I've never even seen one that shot over 1 MOA.
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It's fairly common for a Model 700 to shoot 3 shot one hole groups at 100 yards. At least it is for me. I guess you just have to be able to shoot.
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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You could probably take shooting lessons at a local range.
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Laffin', you're too easy.
No need for shooting lessons here. At your age it's probably too late but you might be able to develop some basic skills if you tried. Tighten up those big ol' groups a little, maybe....
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Well maybe it was the Remington ammo that made my son's Tikka shoot so well. Perhaps you use Finnish Lapua ammo in your model 700's and that is why they all shoot 1/2MOA?
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They may have a nice instructor that could get you off on the right foot.
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Maybe one that could show me how to azz-shoot a dink from a golf cart?
No, I'd have to come down to your rest home for someone to show me that.
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If they'll give you a pass from the asylum come on down.
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Since I "run the asylum" (with no walls), I'm forced to deal with the mentally challenged on a daily basis. When I take my vacations I would rather spend them with my family or actual hunters.....
Thanks for the invite, though. If I ever wind up at a K9 function in your AO, I'll bring my Montana along and show you how to shoot. Hell, to be fair I might even bring a 700 that actually shoots well under MOA as well.
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I would skip the Tikka and get an original model A7. Swap in a steel 85 shroud and buy an extra magazine.
Good to go and you can make the mag feed from the top down.
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All this tikka talk makes me want to buy one...I like that fluted barrel lightweight they sell at Sportsmens warehouse. All it needs is the aluminum bolt shroud and I am happy. What I don't understand is how the hell people are breaking the factory plastic shrouds or what difference it makes anyway. I mean really, the bolt shroud is a non stressed part that's only there for looks. The rifle will function without the damn thing. My older Tikka 595 and 695 appear to have the same shrouds as the new T-3's and neither have so much as a crack after 11 years of use.
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All this tikka talk makes me want to buy one...I like that fluted barrel lightweight they sell at Sportsmens warehouse. All it needs is the aluminum bolt shroud and I am happy. What I don't understand is how the hell people are breaking the factory plastic shrouds or what difference it makes anyway. I mean really, the bolt shroud is a non stressed part that's only there for looks. The rifle will function without the damn thing. My older Tikka 595 and 695 appear to have the same shrouds as the new T-3's and neither have so much as a crack after 11 years of use. It's an aesthetics thing ...you are right the shroud is just a covering
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What happened to that 700 270 that shot 3" groups? I wouldn't know since I've never even seen one that shot over 1 MOA. I will send you mine then. It's a tomato stake. And don't give me that crap about not being able to shoot. I can get a smaller group at 100yds with irons on a .375H&H than that remmy can with a 14x Leupold on it. The chamber is cut completely crooked. The rifling is missing on one side of the throat for 1/2 inch, and not cut at all on the other side. And yes, I do have a borescope and know how to use it.
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I would skip the Tikka and get an original model A7. Swap in a steel 85 shroud and buy an extra magazine.
Good to go and you can make the mag feed from the top down. Thats a thought as well
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Looks a little better than a T3. One piece shroud holds the spring and other chit together, it's not a cover. ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/wheat-stormfootageAug62010013.jpg)
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"I suspect that most satisfied T3 customers are not experienced rifle buyers. A person who has never owned a fine rifle is much more likely to be tolerant of an economy rifle's shortcomings than an experienced shooter and hunter. The relative newcomer simply has inadequate personal experience upon which to base an informed opinion." Now I know who chuck hawks is and will make sure to avoid any more of his wisdom. The only con I can really think of is the stock and its purely cosmetic. I keep hoping boyds will bring out a laminate soon but they need to hear the request so go to their page and fill out the form.(ask for the prarie hunter please) https://boydsgunstocks.questionpro.com/Hey swampy did your Rem 700 .270 do this at 600yards out of the box? If I recall correctly the black portion measures 4", bottom three were shot first then a couple clicks were added for the rest. I also love the fact you will dismiss someone like Mackay who does it for real on a regular basis but we're expected to take your word as the gospel. ![[Linked Image]](http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm130/Norcalphoenix/Hunting%20stuff/221.jpg)
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ?
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ? It's a 75 bolt with a plastic shroud from the factory. He replaced it with an 85 bolt shroud..the magazine has metal feed inserts..everything else is plastic.
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All this tikka talk makes me want to buy one...I like that fluted barrel lightweight they sell at Sportsmens warehouse. All it needs is the aluminum bolt shroud and I am happy. What I don't understand is how the hell people are breaking the factory plastic shrouds or what difference it makes anyway. I mean really, the bolt shroud is a non stressed part that's only there for looks. The rifle will function without the damn thing. My older Tikka 595 and 695 appear to have the same shrouds as the new T-3's and neither have so much as a crack after 11 years of use. Me neither. 11 years and counting on my 695 7mag, that shoots everything I feed it sub MOA.
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ? It's a 75 bolt with a plastic shroud from the factory. He replaced it with an 85 bolt shroud..the magazine has metal feed inserts..everything else is plastic. Thank's Oldelkhunter. Can't see the point in the A-7 when it appears about all it amounts to is a Tikka with a higher price tag and a bolt that isn't as well designed because it uses a plastic bolt shroud as an essential, stressed component where, as we discussed before, the Tikka's shroud is non stressed/ non essential.
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Pros: Very accurate, and light.
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ? It's a 75 bolt with a plastic shroud from the factory. He replaced it with an 85 bolt shroud..the magazine has metal feed inserts..everything else is plastic. Thank's Oldelkhunter. Can't see the point in the A-7 when it appears about all it amounts to is a Tikka with a higher price tag and a bolt that isn't as well designed because it uses a plastic bolt shroud as an essential, stressed component where, as we discussed before, the Tikka's shroud is non stressed/ non essential. IIRC the A-7 shroud is metal with a plastic coating, not completely plastic like the T-3 shroud. The shroud on the T-3 (and virtually all BA rifles) DOES perform a safety function. The shroud is there to block gasses which enter the bolt from contacting the face of the shooter should a primer be pierced. I prefer a more robust shroud than that on the T-3.
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ? It's a 75 bolt with a plastic shroud from the factory. He replaced it with an 85 bolt shroud..the magazine has metal feed inserts..everything else is plastic. Thank's Oldelkhunter. Can't see the point in the A-7 when it appears about all it amounts to is a Tikka with a higher price tag and a bolt that isn't as well designed because it uses a plastic bolt shroud as an essential, stressed component where, as we discussed before, the Tikka's shroud is non stressed/ non essential. IIRC the A-7 shroud is metal with a plastic coating, not completely plastic like the T-3 shroud. The shroud on the T-3 (and virtually all BA rifles) DOES perform a safety function. The shroud is there to block gasses which enter the bolt from contacting the face of the shooter should a primer be pierced. I prefer a more robust shroud than that on the T-3. That is correct I forgot about the shroud on the A7 being plastic coated metal
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pfft. Chuck Hawks needs to get over himself.
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pfft. Chuck Hawks needs to get over himself. and people pay to see other stuff he writes ROTFLMFAO
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Any boltaction rifle will shoot 1 1/2 MOA. If it won't do 1/2 that, it should be traded off to someone you dislike.
All my Remington 700s shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box. I bet if I said that I have a dog, you would tell me that you have an elephant.
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I bet if I said that I have a dog, you would tell me that you have an elephant. No, but I'd advise against a plastic deer rifle that's expensive.
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I bet if I said that I have a dog, you would tell me that you have an elephant. No, but I'd advise against a plastic deer rifle that's expensive. No 700 is going to run with a Tikka ..just not going to happen.
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Well if every Titka will shoot under 1/2 MOA, then that's good for a plastic rifle.
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Well if every Titka will shoot under 1/2 MOA, then that's good for a plastic rifle. The number of people willing to face you in an "off the rack" challenge between Tikkas and 700's would number in the thousands. Actual people, actual rifles, actual targets & real bullets...not just keyboard marksmanship.
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Looks like a totally different bolt design. Are the magazine and trigger guard plastic on the A7's ? It's a 75 bolt with a plastic shroud from the factory. He replaced it with an 85 bolt shroud..the magazine has metal feed inserts..everything else is plastic. Thank's Oldelkhunter. Can't see the point in the A-7 when it appears about all it amounts to is a Tikka with a higher price tag and a bolt that isn't as well designed because it uses a plastic bolt shroud as an essential, stressed component where, as we discussed before, the Tikka's shroud is non stressed/ non essential. IIRC the A-7 shroud is metal with a plastic coating, not completely plastic like the T-3 shroud. The shroud on the T-3 (and virtually all BA rifles) DOES perform a safety function. The shroud is there to block gasses which enter the bolt from contacting the face of the shooter should a primer be pierced. I prefer a more robust shroud than that on the T-3. Horse puckey ! You aren't seriously telling me you, Tikka or anybody else has any expectations of being protected from 60,000 psi gasses by a 1/32" thick plastic shroud are you ? And if anybody is worried about the factory shroud there are at least two aftermarket aluminum shrouds available that I'm aware of.
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Horse puckey ! You aren't seriously telling me you, Tikka or anybody else has any expectations of being protected from 60,000 psi gasses by a 1/32" thick plastic shroud are you ? Nope, I'd say the plastic T-3 shroud would end up in your face but a steel or aluminum one may work just fine dealing with whatever gas gets into the bolt body from a pierced primer. One advantage of the cheap Savage 110 action is that the back of the bolt is completely blocked by the bolt assembly screw.
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Horse puckey ! You aren't seriously telling me you, Tikka or anybody else has any expectations of being protected from 60,000 psi gasses by a 1/32" thick plastic shroud are you ? Nope, I'd say the plastic T-3 shroud would end up in your face but a steel or aluminum one may work just fine dealing with whatever gas gets into the bolt body from a pierced primer. One advantage of the cheap Savage 110 action is that the back of the bolt is completely blocked by the bolt assembly screw. I don't know about you but I'm thinking Tikka is probably relying on the stepped, steel flange of the approx 3/8" thick, rear section of the firing pin, which is held in place by the dovetailed root of the bolt handle, to deflect errant gasses in the event of a pierced primer.
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OK you win.
Where can I order plastic shrouds for my other rifles?
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Not all rifles even have a bolt shroud. I'm sitting here looking at the rear of the firing pin sticking out the back of my Enfield bolt for just one example.
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OK you win.
Where can I order plastic shrouds for my other rifles?
TIA. Really that Plastic Shroud is just a cosmetic feature...with the shroud off you will have as much exposure to gas escaping as you would with a M70,77 or 700. The replacement aluminum shroud is just aesthetics and to keep dirt out of that mechanism.
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You have zero credibility. Period. C'mon Makay, you expect us to take your word over Swampy's. Really.....a grocery bagger vs. the Remington expert . George Yep, still bagging groceries out in Rock Ridge! That was one of the funniest threads ever!!
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Horse puckey ! You aren't seriously telling me you, Tikka or anybody else has any expectations of being protected from 60,000 psi gasses by a 1/32" thick plastic shroud are you ? Nope, I'd say the plastic T-3 shroud would end up in your face but a steel or aluminum one may work just fine dealing with whatever gas gets into the bolt body from a pierced primer. One advantage of the cheap Savage 110 action is that the back of the bolt is completely blocked by the bolt assembly screw. Tad more than a pierced primer, I can tell you from experience of having a .308 getting let off in a .270 that the shooter got a small puff of gas in the face and that was it, did not realize the extent of the problem until he could not open the bolt. Only casualty was a crack in the housing.
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I'm thinking Tikka is probably relying on the stepped, steel flange of the approx 3/8" thick, rear section of the firing pin, which is held in place by the dovetailed root of the bolt handle, to deflect errant gasses in the event of a pierced primer. This is what I call the 'shroud'. The A7 came with a thin metal looking version covered in hard plastic. It might have lasted for a million rounds but I didn't like the idea of it inches from my eyeball holding a cocked firing pin. Who knows, gets real cold it maybe it snaps in half one day. I was under the impression that Tikka uses a similiar 'shroud' to the A7. Obviously from what you say that is not the case. This is an 85 'shroud' on the A7. One piece steel, probably weighs twice that of the original. It is solid and very well machined, probably why it costs about $90(that and [bleep]' Beretta....grin). ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/MayMud2011020.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/MayMud2011021.jpg) If anyone has a pic of a T3 'shroud' please post it, my original A7 version is out at my folks otherwise I would compare the two.
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Thank's for the pic's Sam. Yeah, that's alot different arrangement than my Tikka's. I know what you mean about Berreta's prices. Cost me 65.00 a piece for spare Tikka mags. What a ripoff !
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Interesting concept. I have loaded some pretty hot loads at times but not yet in my 50 years of shooting ever had a burst or punctured primer. Am I just really lucky or is the danger theoretical rather than real? I shot between 5 and 10 thousand rounds in various handguns and rifles for fifteen years without such an occurance. What are your experiences like? By the way my stainless synthetic Tikka will set off metal detectors, but it also will shoot 3/4" any day any conditions at 100 unless there is a cross wind which I am still not really good at estimating. Those days 1.5- 2 is the norm. There must be something wrong with my computer because that is the best I can do.  Randy
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Randy, I wasn't worried about a pierced primer/hot load.
My theory was that maybe the shroud would get stressed while the bolt rotated inside. It's under a little pressure when the spring is cocked and if it ever did break chit would fly back into your face.
Might sting just enough to really piss a guy off....grin
Probably just a Looney idea but now I know it's not ever gonna break and that makes me happy.
Should add I'm not knocking T3's, as I've never owned one. Three of my friends own them and they have all had good luck.
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Huh?? He's baggin' grocieries in Rock Ridge??
Merde!!! I missed that thread!
Rock Ridge where, as in what state????
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you will have as much exposure to gas escaping as you would with a......700. There is no exposure with the Model 700.
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As for replacing the plastic bolt shroud, it might never break, or it might break tomorrow. I'm just gonna throw an aluminum one on there because I tend to obey the Law of the 7 P's. An ounce of prevention and all that...
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I'm thinkin' Swampy's an expert on gas escapin'... 
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you will have as much exposure to gas escaping as you would with a......700. There is no exposure with the Model 700. Laffin my nutz off. How would you know you ? All you shoot is watered down factory ammo.
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Yeah, but he shoots it all into a 1/2" or less..remember?
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Yeah, but he shoots it all into a 1/2" or less..remember? Idealogues like Swampy come around every few years or so.
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I bought my kid a Tikka t3. It shoots ok so far and is not at all broke in yet. I think the Tikka is a little high mostly cause our dollar is not what it used to be, no cause it's over priced junk. There is a trend in this world, and it's plastic all the way. I have seen plastic these days so hard you can hardly break it. You won't break steel but will bend it. Example, look at carbon arrows. I have shot them square into a block wall and bounced back almost as fast. The arrow was still good. Lets see aluminum arrows do that. Another example. My Savage 12 fv stock is a little bent. I stood on it and jumped up and down on it. Never got it to bend. Chuck Hawk wants to rip on Tikka, let him take his 1100 dollar Kimber through what we take our guns through. It wont be worth half in 5 years. If his trophies are his beautiful walnut stock custom made safe queens good for him. It's cheaper than hunting trips anyway. Most likely more accurate than his Kimber too. Lots of reviews of Kimber not being much to brag about neither, look'em up! Ok Chuck, what is a "good rifle" then Dumb AASS? He didn't say much about good rifles did he? Plastic is all over the place and it's darn tough. Bottom line Chucky, ya want a pretty gun, buy one. Ya want a gun that ya can drop into the river getting out of the canoe and have it keep the zero buy a "plastic gun"! They are here to stay.
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Just put an aluminum shroud on my Tikka 595. All good now. ![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/blargon/DSCF3012.jpg) And here is the first 6 shots I fired out of this rifle, after sighting... ![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/blargon/DSCF3001.jpg)
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Where do you get that aluminum shroud? I've got a 695 that I'd like to put it on. Thanks.
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a guy on canadiangunnutz is making those ....
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Sorry to put a grain of salt in this thread but lots of you guys are speaking of bad or not so good aluminium rings from Tikka. In Europe Tikka T3 Lite come without scope ring and if we want we buy Sako/Tikka Optilock which are steel with plastic inserts inside (like Burris). May be Beretta USA put aluminium rings with your T3 but i don't think they are Tikka made ( www.tikka.fi). About the mag: yes they are very expensive (in Europe it's even worse than America) for plastic things. For the one who complain about capacity: you can buy some five rounds standart calibers ones. I own one Hunter in 338Fed, very accurate, reliable and light, one of my go to rifle and one 260Rem Lite. Nothing to say against, not a Sako Bavarian but can have 2,5 Tikka for the price of a Bavarian.... Dom
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Where do you get that aluminum shroud? I've got a 695 that I'd like to put it on. Thanks. cgnflick  gmail.com Not sure what his policy is about shipping over the border. email and ask. A fine piece of machining.
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Huh?? He's baggin' grocieries in Rock Ridge??
Merde!!! I missed that thread!
Rock Ridge where, as in what state???? We were making references to the movie "Blazing Saddles". Down in the handgun section a guy recentlycame on with a handle of "chlinstructor" and proceeded come across a self appointed expert in all things related to handguns and combat. Essentially he made a complete assclown of himself. It was obvious the guy really wanted to be someone important and thinks being a ccw instructor would make him an important person. I played along as a grocery bagger from "Rock Ridge". It was the funniest thread I have ever participated in here on the forum
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Guess I made a major mistake when I took a SAKO A7 in 308 Win to Africa, also took a TIKKA T3 in 270 Win. Shot 8 head of game in 8 days and had not a single bolt shroud failure, and had not a single scope mount or ring failure (replaced with Leupold). To make matters worse didn't even have a single bullet failure. Mabe I'm doing something wrong.
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I've got one in 300 win mag and it doesn't shoot for crap... Always funny when guys have to cut out their best groups, so not to show the other 10 shots that sprayed all over the place on the target. Hilarious.
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Just one question, what does Chuck hawk think is a good gun? Noone seems to know. He ripped Tikka a new one but didn't give his infinite nod of approval for any other gun.
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Just one question, what does Chuck hawk think is a good gun? Noone seems to know. He ripped Tikka a new one but didn't give his infinite nod of approval for any other gun. Chuck likes Model 70's, Weatherby MK V's and Vanguards .
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Chuck likes Model 70's, Weatherby MK V's and Vanguards . Whooopie for him.
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Chuck likes Model 70's, Weatherby MK V's and Vanguards . Whooopie for him. Yeah and people actually pay to read his opinions
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So, how robust is the trigger group in these Tikkas, say in wet then freezing temps and salt spray regions..?
Being that the clip is universal, which one would run the 6.5 x 284 or 284 Winchester cartridge.. the standard width set up for the .473" bolt face, or those made to handle the wider case of say the WSMs..?
Have any of you had your Tikkas fail in the field, if so.. how.?
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No opinion on Tikka's, but I've read some stupid chit written by the esteemed Chuck Hawks.
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No opinion on Tikka's, but I've read some stupid chit written by the esteemed Chuck Hawks. +1
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" So, how robust is the trigger group in these Tikkas, say in wet then freezing temps and salt spray regions..?"
Spent a whole week in Montana last year hunting elk. The day I shot my elk it was -23 when I left the cabin in the morning. Warmend up a little but not much. Shot the elk about 4:30 in the afternoon. Rifle was fine, I was somewhat frozen. Not too much salt water in Montana so cant comment on that.
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So, how robust is the trigger group in these Tikkas, say in wet then freezing temps and salt spray regions..?
Being that the clip is universal, which one would run the 6.5 x 284 or 284 Winchester cartridge.. the standard width set up for the .473" bolt face, or those made to handle the wider case of say the WSMs..?
Have any of you had your Tikkas fail in the field, if so.. how.? The trigger group compared to a Remington is like comparing a Bentley to a Kia. Between Sako and Tikka the best triggers currently made. I have never experienced any kind of mechanical issue with a Tikka but I guess if you use Google you will eventually read about some failure. The T3 is a one size fits all and 6.5x284 or 284 are not offered. My best guess would be the WSM magazine.
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Hi 358,
Tikkas and Sakos are Made in Finland for finnish hunters. May be you don't know but Finland in winter can be as cold and wild as Alaska, not the south for sure but when you get up to and above polar circle life is hard and rifle are used as tool. Finnish are tough guys who know haw to use and make firearms. They stand well! As all man made products they can sometime fail but they are a least as good as the best of the other brands.
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Mackay Sagebrush, Thanks for the clarification. We have a Rock Ridge in our state, and for a moment I was terrified he might be from this neck of the woods.  I didn't want him giving our state a bad name with his ridiculous posts. Glad to hear his location is as fictional as his accomplishments are. And I'm still a T3 fan. I think prudence demands that an extra mag be obtained, simply because you don't want a mag to break or get lost and turn the gun into a single shot. And I still think it's just wise to put an aluminum bolt shroud on them. I also put the rings of my choice on them, too. Other than that, they rock!!!!
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I remember a few years ago I was very skeptical about Tikkas because they felt wimpy when handling them in the store. I finally gave in and bought one after reading all the reports, and I wanted a lightweight gun. I am actually sorry I did. It honestly does outshoot every gun in my safe...Just shot it yesterday and it shot so well that it pissed me off. Maybe I just bought an awesome one, but so far it is the most accurate gun I have ever owned.
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They are light, they are accurate, and they are affordable. That's a tough act to beat. Some of the criticism of them is snobbery, and some of it is honest difference of opinion. The latter I accept and respect, the former I don't pay any attention to and instead make up my own mind. If they were as big a p.o.s. as some of their detractors claim, you wouldn't see so many happy owners. That kind of tells the story right there.
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dogcatcher,
They are light, they are accurate, and they are affordable. That's a tough act to beat. Some of the criticism of them is snobbery, and some of it is honest difference of opinion. The latter I accept and respect, the former I don't pay any attention to and instead make up my own mind. If they were as big a p.o.s. as some of their detractors claim, you wouldn't see so many happy owners. That kind of tells the story right there. IMHO if they were to add a metal shroud and bottom metal they would be the finest factory 2 lug pushfeed action along with barrel made. It would take major money to make anything else keep up with it. I know that the plastic shroud and floorplate,magazine are perfectly fine, although I did manage to crack a bolt shroud..it is just aesthetics at least for me.
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Campfire Ranger
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I actually like the plastic trigger guard. Funny how it is ok for guns like Glocks, but not on a rifle.
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Campfire Ranger
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I actually like the plastic trigger guard. Funny how it is ok for guns like Glocks, but not on a rifle. Yeah it really is
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Campfire Ranger
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Polymer is to plastic as steel is to pot-metal... No comparison g
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I just know my and my son's Tikka's just plain work well. I have other rifles, but have absolutley no issues with a Tikka. I would be happy to meet Swampy with box stock rifles for a match. LOL and I do own Remington's.
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Shot this yesterday with my 6.5 Swede Tikka. Not bad for 200 yards...(100gr Ballistic Tips) ![[Linked Image]](http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/dogcatcher223AI/tikka200.jpg)
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Campfire Outfitter
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Pros: Shoot great (have had 7 different calibers .243 to 300WSM) Cons: Shoot great you will end up trading off your 700's
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Cons: Shoot great you will end up trading off your 700's Trust me, I have debated it lately.
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Cons: Shoot great you will end up trading off your 700's Trust me, I have debated it lately. You guys need to find out where Swampy gets his 700's. He's obviously into a different cohort of 700's than everyone else. DF
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So tired of fighting that stupid bolt release lever on one of my 700's. About to kick it to the curb, or send it off for a side release install. Not to mention it will only shoot one bullet and one load accurately.
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I'm not really a Remington hater, but the wifes Model 7 required a bit of work to find a good load. Several were not good. Factory loads so so at best. With a Tikka, bought a box of Wally World Corelocks on sale and shot under an inch at 100 yards right out of the box. Perhaps there are Remington's that will shoot 1/2 MOA, I have never had one....
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My latest, a .223 SPSS, shoots extremely well box-stock.
I've had a couple turkeys, that's also true. A M7 in particular was just a 1.75 MOA rifle and that was that. Still like M7's and 700's, though.
The CENTER will hold.
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