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Aint dead yet. I wonder if this thread was worth resurrecting? But then I will read anything about the 7RM anytime.
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Although I have never been a 7 Mag fan as I think the .280, 270 and 30-06 are just as good, but hey thats pretty good company to be in and it's right there with that bunch.... I would hate to see the 7 mag. disapear and I don't think that is even remotely possible as there are way too many of them out there and its a very popular caliber as it should be. Even if it did then the value of the existing guns will sky rocket, the custom gun builders will get flooded with orders, it would, in fact, be a shot in the arm for the 7mag..and I think its the best of the magnum 7 MM's......you can always have brass as the 338 brass is just a resize or two away.. If they quit making them, I'll surely buy one! thats the way I think on these things.
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The seven mag is not going anywhere its has a big following in the south i myself do not shoot one but just listening to people and how they feel about theirs and the availability of ammo it will be around when alot of these short mags are things of the past
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Proponents of new cartridges(whether manufacturers or disciples) are always going to snipe at older cartridges with 50-60 years of proven field experience,because the new cartridge has....what???....nothing except "Field Tests" and marketing to go on...and has to overcome a lot of shooter/hunter loyalty in order to sell.So,comparisons are inevitable.
Commercialsm, and the durable nature of rifles,necessitates that gun manufacturers create new cartridges that offer some "advantage" over the older cartridges, to sell more rifles,and thisleads to peculiar notions like the 7mmWSM (or something else) is "superior"(some actually believe this) to the old 7 Rem Mag.Such comparisons are fun and highly entertaining,but I bow out when someone actually expects me to believe it..
Over the last 10-15 years,I have played with(and ditched)the 270 Weatherby,the 270 WSM,the 7mmWSM,the STW,and the 264 WM.They were all great....they did exactly what the 7RM does.....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The 7mm Rem Mag is here to stay. It is a total Fallacy to think that it is going anywhere.
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I think the 7mm Rem Mag is a great round, right along with the 270, 30-06 and 300 Win Mag. I sure hope it stays around ... Chuck
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I ain't worried about the 7mm Rem Magnum going anywhere but on the other hand I don't think the new 7mm WSM is catching on too well, I like all the short mags I hope it makes it.......................547.
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The 7-Mag does nothing for deer hunting that the .270 or .280 won't do and it does nothing for elk hunting (and the like) that a .300 Mag won't do better!
That said, it'll do a fine job of either for the guy that wants fewer guns and more hunts.
It's as good an "all around" cartridge as it gets!
If I was limited to a very few rifles, a 7-Mag would definitely be in high consideration!
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The short mags out there may be cutting into 7mm Rem Mag new rifle PRODUCTION NUMBERS. The gun companies have only so much production capacity. That capacity has to be allocated according to what management WANTS TO SELL the year in advance.
According to some here at the campfire the 270 WSM and 300 WSM are selling well. The 7mm WSM is in distant third. So maybe management will say that next year increase the 7mm RM rifles produced, at the expense of the 7mm WSM.
Anyone who owns a 7mm RM is not going to have any hardship getting ammo now or in fifty years. Too many rifles already out there. Hell, how many new rifles have been built in the last fifty years in 300 Savage? I can still get ammo for mine.
I'd bet that 80% of Idaho rural stores/gas stations carry ammo in 30/06, 270 Win, amd 7mm RM!
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The problem with the 7mag is most people shoot 140 to 150 grain bullets through them,which is nothing more than a glorified 270/280 with more recoil,muzzle blast and less mag capacity.
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VIVA the 7mm Mag. I'll always have at least one rifle chambered for the 7 mag. For me, 7mm rifles are where it's at.
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Back in the late 60's and 70's,the 7 Mag was the gun to have,the all time classic was a Remy BDL with 3-9x Lupy,now I see them all over the used gun racks. They seem now to have become the donor premiere.... My old Sako was built to shoot 160 Partitions it seemed and really, nothing else made sense to me. It needs to be fed like a Mag,to work like a Mag.It you don't need a fast 160,175 bullet,why bother anymore?
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Big mistake.. Winnie just keeps shootin' themselves in the foot..
Pretty soon they'll be walking on their knees..
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which is nothing more than a glorified 270/280 Nothing wrong with a glorified, enhanced, or hot rodded version of an already proven game killer. No, I don't think there is anything wrong with a 7 mag. They still do what they were designed to do, shoot as flat as a .270 and hit as hard as an 06.
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All I know is that after the .300 WSM came out, a BUNCH of used 7mm Remington Magnums showed up in various places in Montana--just like a BUNCH of used .270's and .30-06's started showing up in the 1960's when the 7mm Remington was The In-Cartridge.
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I find it a fine all-around cartridge. Enough for elk, not too much (is there such a thing?) for mule deer. Modest recoil which I can handle just fine and still shoot it well. Have always preferred the 160 & 175 gr bullets with hefty charges of slow burning powder. Truth be told, it's an awful lot like my old .30-06, which is another favorite of mine...
Am not sure there's any pending demise to the 7mm Rem mag, but if there is, it's simply a marketing thing - newer flashier cartridges attracting buyers who just have to own something new. Nothing really wrong with that, I've sent plenty of good rifles down the road when something else became more interesting to me.
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It really sucks to buy a rifle that will shoot $17/box ammo when you can buy exactly the same performance in another cartridge for $49/box.
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All I know is that after the .300 WSM came out, a BUNCH of used 7mm Remington Magnums showed up in various places in Montana--just like a BUNCH of used .270's and .30-06's started showing up in the 1960's when the 7mm Remington was The In-Cartridge. This could be me. IMO the creep upwards in caliber has got a lot to do with better stock designs and better recoil pads. My first 270 back in 1966 had a monte carlo stock without a pad. When the 7 mags came out they were sold with pads, now Rem. sells the SPS with LimbSaver pads and a straight stock. So, to me a 300 WSM in SPS is easier to handle than my first 270 without a pad. But I still think the 7 RM is going to be around a long time, they are just too good in the wind etc.
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The Remington 7MM Mag. along with the .243Win. are among my least favorite cartridges. I was rangemaster during the 1970's and those two cartridges were in their heyday. I mostly got bored with them, but neither seemed to do anything other rounds didn't do better, or cheaper. I tend to lean towards more traditional and old miltary chamberings in my interest.
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