Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Demise of 7mm Rem. Mag. Market driven or marketing?

if i didn't prefer the 30-06 i'd go with the 7mmremmag. both great cartridges which will be around (in factory loads) for another 50 years.

Two 7 RM reside in my gun cabinet. Likely never be less than one..........

Great cartridge.

1974,

To me the advantage of the 7mm RM's magnum capacity is its handloaders versatility. As in you could load a 140 grain at 2700 fps and have ballistically a 7x57mm, or a 280 Rem, or have a 160 or 175 grain at standard 7mm RM velocity, or go buy the Hornaday "heavy magnum" for that extra 200 fps over the standard magnum load.

But as you say most people have over bought and would be better off with a 280 Rem or a 270 Win.

Most folks would be better off with more practice . . . .

But hey, who an I to argue?

The 7mm remmy SUCKS, btw . . . . . .

BMT

Damn, Syncerus, that as funny!!! I got choked and sprayed coffee all over my screen.

I suppose you could say it's good for the economy.

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You have to love a 2004 thread that's still pertinent.

The perfect ALL AROUND cartridge for every big game animal in North America?

7MM Rem. Mag.

Big 2nd

Haven't owned 7mm RM in 6-7 years only because, well, other cartridges just caught my interest I suppose. But quess what!? I just bought a Ruger Mk2[not a Hawkeye]7mm RM two weeks ago for no other reason than just to get one back. They are still popular, and as others have said, they ain't going to disappear anytime soon. Just a thought. Tom

I have no idea about the sales for Winchester. But I was in Academy today and a gentleman was in the process of having a brand new scope put on his brand new Rem. 700 sps in 7mm remington magnum. I have no idea how they are selling else where but from what the guy at the counter said they are still a pretty good seller. No idea what he means. 1 a week, a few a month or 20 a month. I didn't go to deep into it with him. I think it is a great round but has slipped a little with the introduction of the wsm's and the rum's

I agree that the wsm's are taking a chunk of the market. I was considering one once, and talked to a bear guide in AK. He said he sees a lot of feeding malfunctions with the wsm's. Enough for me.

I love my '87 tang safety Ruger M77, 7 Mag. If I had to get rid of every rifle but one, that'd be the one that stays.

One of the 7 mags biggest problems is that it has become as common,in general, as the 30/06,270,300 Win mag,etc.Comparisons are inevitable,and rifle nuts are trendy folks,and like new,different stuff even though they may not work any better than what preceded them.

JB's analogy to the 7 mags traded in on 300 WSM's is an example....other than fit on a short action(important to some people)there is nothing I know of that is fodder for one, that can't be done with the other.Load the 7 RM with a good 120-140 gr bullet,and you "have" a 264,270 Weatherby,etc.Load it with good 160 gr bullets at over 3000,or 175's over 2900,and you have something that approaches the 300 mags in effectiveness,and while not as powerful as 300's,shoots just as flat and makes stuff just as dead,while kicking less in the process.So,it gives useably high velocities with everything from 120 to 175 gr bullets,which cuts a pretty big swath on a lot of game animals.

It does all this without burning hat-fulls of powder,and recoils moderately in the process.

Like anything that's popular,the 7 Rem mag has always had its' detractors,most prominent among them are the slew of big game animals that fall to it every hunting season.I don't know what more you can ask of a big game cartridge.

I've owned a lot of rifles, but never a big 7. I once carried a borrowed one on a mule deer about 20 years ago back in my rifle poor days. Have been thinking I may need to try the 7mm out. Maybe need to look for an early M700 with stainless barrel and pressed checkering, the classic 7 mag.

Bob,

Outstanding job of explaining my 3 points. Recoil, small bullets for smaller big game, and heavier bullets for the big boys. 7Mag can do it all, and is still manageble.

I very much doubt the 7Mag will ever go away.

Its too close to the 30/06/270 to go away.....folks just love to hate 'em.

Well considering that Winchester last of the M-70's were made in 1959 or earlier its a moot point. There is no flies on the 7mm Remington Mag or the Weatherby version for that matter. My second centerfire rifle was a Remington 700 BDL that wore a fixed 4x Leupold on it. Did some of my very best shooting with that rifle in Kenya in 1972. I when and played with other rifles and cartridges since then then a Blaser R-93 came my way four seasons ago and it had a 7mm Remington Barrel on it and well I rediscovered what a good no BS hunting cartridge it is. I been thinking of having an NULA built and so chambered for when I quite flying. Not in my life time. but its a nice though. Would like to be able to do that 1972 Kenya 30 days again too, one can hope and change for something. Shooting 60 175 gr Nosler Partition into meat is hope and change any one can belief in.

Don't own a 7mm RM - I use the 30-06 - but these RCBS die sales figures seem to indicate that the cartridge is in no trouble whatsoever:

7mm Remington Magnum
RCBS Sales position
2003 #11
2004 #6
2005 #13
2006 #13
2007 #12
2008 #8

I wish someone would have told me I was wasting my money with a new trigger, bedding and recrowning, I could have bought a short mag.

I will keep my 7mm Rem Mag. rifle. Factory ballistics being trounced by ammo maker's marketing boys does not affect my shooting hardly at all. I still use the same loads that have worked for me since my first 7mm Rem Mag rifle was bought in 1965. Velocity is still the same as is sub-MOA accuracy. You know what, my rifle will shoot right alongside the 7mm WSM without buying a new rifle to do it.