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Originally Posted by slasher

Israeli powers in their govt were told this by the Obama administration,

"We are going to change the world. Stop doing...."


Be careful what you wish for...........................





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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Monckton is real, so's the issue he puts forth.
Monckton is a self serving dillwad who doesn't have a FOX show of his own yet.

Based on the comments, it's clear most of you don't have a clue about climate change or climate change regulation, and the long term benefits it could provide US industry if we get off our behinds and do something.

US industry needs to retool and become more efficient in order to compete effectively. Climate change regulation provides the economic mechanism to drive the changes needed.

We could pout and do nothing as things continue to worsen, or we can get busy doing what needs to be done in order to postion ourselves for a decent future. The notion of global climate regulation will put US industry on a more level playing field versus low-cost foreign producers who pollute, as their products should be subject to import tarrifs based on the carbon footprint of those products. Between being produced inefficiently and having to be transported long distances, that should tend to provide native efficient and clean industries with an edge for the US market. The US market is the market most countries want to sell into.

BTW: How many of you buy at WalMart?

This scarry nonesense, whining and hand wringing gets old. The sky is not falling.



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Show me where it is PROVEN that carbon levels drive temperature, and that the earth has warmed in the last ten years. Until there is absolute proof of the carbon/ temperature scenario, I really don't want to pay for it. A computer model is NOT science.

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Originally Posted by Dudejcb
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Monckton is real, so's the issue he puts forth.
Monckton is a self serving dillwad who doesn't have a FOX show of his own yet.

Based on the comments, it's clear most of you don't have a clue about climate change or climate change regulation, and the long term benefits it could provide US industry if we get off our behinds and do something.

US industry needs to retool and become more efficient in order to compete effectively. Climate change regulation provides the economic mechanism to drive the changes needed.

We could pout and do nothing as things continue to worsen, or we can get busy doing what needs to be done in order to postion ourselves for a decent future. The notion of global climate regulation will put US industry on a more level playing field versus low-cost foreign producers who pollute, as their products should be subject to import tarrifs based on the carbon footprint of those products. Between being produced inefficiently and having to be transported long distances, that should tend to provide native efficient and clean industries with an edge for the US market. The US market is the market most countries want to sell into.

BTW: How many of you buy at WalMart?

This scarry nonesense, whining and hand wringing gets old. The sky is not falling.



You obviously can't read. Nothing in that proposal is for the good of the US. It will redistribute our wealth, as stated in the document. It also forms a global government with unlimited authority over all member nations.......

This is not a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Dudejcb
the long term benefits it could provide US industry if we get off our behinds and do something.

US industry needs to retool and become more efficient in order to compete effectively. Climate change regulation provides the economic mechanism to drive the changes needed.



Industry in the US has been screwed by our gov for a long time now.Most of the green wheenie chit will be built in china or india and do not a thing for US industry.
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What is this? Just more names being added to the Presidents enemy list. If you disagree with fearless leader you are his enemy. Remember his idea of government is "might makes right".


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Originally Posted by bender
Show me where it is PROVEN that carbon levels drive temperature, and that the earth has warmed in the last ten years. Until there is absolute proof of the carbon/ temperature scenario, I really don't want to pay for it. A computer model is NOT science.


evidence shows the planet has been cooling for a decade.

CO2 does not drive temperature.

The biggest "greenhouse" gas is water vapor. will they try and regulate that next?

Computer models are only as good as the scenario programmed into them.

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Originally Posted by Dudejcb
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Monckton is real, so's the issue he puts forth.
Monckton is a self serving dillwad who doesn't have a FOX show of his own yet.

Based on the comments, it's clear most of you don't have a clue about climate change or climate change regulation, and the long term benefits it could provide US industry if we get off our behinds and do something.

US industry needs to retool and become more efficient in order to compete effectively. Climate change regulation provides the economic mechanism to drive the changes needed.

We could pout and do nothing as things continue to worsen, or we can get busy doing what needs to be done in order to postion ourselves for a decent future. The notion of global climate regulation will put US industry on a more level playing field versus low-cost foreign producers who pollute, as their products should be subject to import tarrifs based on the carbon footprint of those products. Between being produced inefficiently and having to be transported long distances, that should tend to provide native efficient and clean industries with an edge for the US market. The US market is the market most countries want to sell into.

BTW: How many of you buy at WalMart?

This scarry nonesense, whining and hand wringing gets old. The sky is not falling.



Another public education Liberal troll heard from.


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Originally Posted by bender
Show me where it is PROVEN that carbon levels drive temperature, and that the earth has warmed in the last ten years. Until there is absolute proof of the carbon/ temperature scenario, I really don't want to pay for it. A computer model is NOT science.
show me proof that cell phones cuase car accidents; or that concrete and asphalt cuase crashes.

Ice core samples and the fossil record show the correlation carbon levels and temperature going back eons. It didn't matter back then cuz we weren't around. Now there are 6.7 billion of us and the earth is undergoing rapid change whether you comprehend it or not. When sea levels rise and millions of people start migrating, vying for remaining resources, things could get complicated...like wars maybe. People do those sorts of things.

But back to you question: tell me why the ice caps and glaciers worldwide are shrinking. Probably cuz it's getting colder no doubt.


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What did you say Dudejcb?

I couldn't make it out because your nose is so far up Al Galore's ass.

Don't come on here and try to sound intelligent with your faitful support of the magic mickey marxketeer and his mob of malicious misfits, you'll get your ass handed to you and come out smelling like a pile of [bleep] and looking like a complete idiot.

Plus, if you love socialism and the demise of America so much you'll be counted an enemy, along with all the other liberal demo(litionist)s. Get a clue or get the hell out of our free country! Ya puke.



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That, my cool-aid guzzling friend, is Greenland. It's a picture of the typical landscape.
A 1000 years ago Greenland supported farming and the keeping of livestock by Viking colonies. Then, it got cold again, which forced the settlers off the land.
l'Histoire se repete...

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Originally Posted by Dudejcb
Originally Posted by bender
Show me where it is PROVEN that carbon levels drive temperature, and that the earth has warmed in the last ten years. Until there is absolute proof of the carbon/ temperature scenario, I really don't want to pay for it. A computer model is NOT science.
show me proof that cell phones cuase car accidents; or that concrete and asphalt cuase crashes.

Ice core samples and the fossil record show the correlation carbon levels and temperature going back eons. It didn't matter back then cuz we weren't around. Now there are 6.7 billion of us and the earth is undergoing rapid change whether you comprehend it or not. When sea levels rise and millions of people start migrating, vying for remaining resources, things could get complicated...like wars maybe. People do those sorts of things.

But back to you question: tell me why the ice caps and glaciers worldwide are shrinking. Probably cuz it's getting colder no doubt.


You need to update your data....using 10 year old data and a restricted data set doesn't mean the sky is falling. going back less than 200 years to prove your climate trend is meaningless considering the age of the planet. Kind of like taking a picture at midnight on a new moon and concluding the planet is always dark.

rising CO2 levels follow warming it doesn't lead and is only correlated, not causally related.

I have yet to have a glass of ice overflow when it melted....

how many acre-feet of ice needs to melt to raise the level of the oceans 1 foot? How many acre-feet of ice are on the planet?

If global warming is so prevalent why did Gore resort to CGI for his film?

Global Warming is a CULT. It is a religion not a science.


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If anyone wants to see this lecture in its entirety, you can go here:

Got 1 1/2 hours to kill? This will be worth it.

He rips the veil of deceit away from the global warming scam, with FACTS.


The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. --H. L. Mencken

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Originally Posted by Archerhunter
What did you say Dudejcb?

I couldn't make it out because your nose is so far up Al Galore's ass.

Don't come on here and try to sound intelligent with your faitful support of the magic mickey marxketeer and his mob of malicious misfits, you'll get your ass handed to you and come out smelling like a pile of [bleep] and looking like a complete idiot.

Plus, if you love socialism and the demise of America so much you'll be counted an enemy, along with all the other liberal demo(litionist)s. Get a clue or get the hell out of our free country! Ya puke.



Archerhunter,

Now you've gone too far.....disparaging misfits like that. There's just no cause for that. grin

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Originally Posted by Dudejcb
Monckton is a self serving dillwad who doesn't have a FOX show of his own yet.

Based on the comments, it's clear most of you don't have a clue about climate change or climate change regulation, and the long term benefits it could provide US industry if we get off our behinds and do something.

US industry needs to retool and become more efficient in order to compete effectively. Climate change regulation provides the economic mechanism to drive the changes needed.

We could pout and do nothing as things continue to worsen, or we can get busy doing what needs to be done in order to postion ourselves for a decent future. The notion of global climate regulation will put US industry on a more level playing field versus low-cost foreign producers who pollute, as their products should be subject to import tarrifs based on the carbon footprint of those products. Between being produced inefficiently and having to be transported long distances, that should tend to provide native efficient and clean industries with an edge for the US market. The US market is the market most countries want to sell into.

BTW: How many of you buy at WalMart?

This scarry nonesense, whining and hand wringing gets old. The sky is not falling.

According to the GW whackjobs, it IS falling..


Sometimes, when the client is full of Kool-Aid, there's no sense in introducing milk...

Laughable..


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Sorry MTmisfit. No offense I hope...


I'm a flatland misfit down here. Maybe you and I should trade places from time to time. Just to keep things interesting smile


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Thanks for the link.......passing it on now!


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Drum roll please...... "I don't know, to be clear." and THAT is one promise he's kept!!!
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How about from late aug through late oct?

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Originally Posted by Archerhunter
What did you say Dudejcb?

I couldn't make it out because your nose is so far up Al Galore's ass.

Don't come on here and try to sound intelligent with your faitful support of the magic mickey marxketeer and his mob of malicious misfits, you'll get your ass handed to you and come out smelling like a pile of [bleep] and looking like a complete idiot.

Plus, if you love socialism and the demise of America so much you'll be counted an enemy, along with all the other liberal demo(litionist)s. Get a clue or get the hell out of our free country! Ya puke.



HEY, don't confuse derby dude with that liberal ass troll Dudejcb!!!!! mad We ain't the same people. frown


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