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Guys like this give gun owners AND dog owners a bad name.

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What a Maroon... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Justice...

Mark

Shame the dog did not use enough gun.

If that no good low life egg sucking scumbag didn't want to have puppies he should have been responsible enough to get his animals fixed. I have absolute no sympathy for this low life!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I think the local animal shelter or a radio station should have a contest to name the 'triggerpuppy'! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I really don't understand. Has it gotten so that a person cannot shoot his own animal? How would someone put an animal down? I must be living too long.

I really don't understand. Has it gotten so that a person cannot shoot his own animal? How would someone put an animal down? I must be living too long.

At first I thought this might be a rebirth of the old one-liner:

"A dog limps into a bar and says, 'I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.'"

There is a difference in putting down a sick or injured animal and killing an animal because you weren't responsible or mature enough to see to it that there was no reproduction. "Look, my dogs had pups because I sat on my butt and didn't do anything so now I am forced to take them out and blow them away". I am sure you see the difference.

Jim

I come from an era when unwanted kittens and puppies were routinely drowned. I have relatives and friends from ranches and farms, one of them holds an annual pig roast where, if ya get there early enough, you get to meet dinner in person.

So I guess I can't get too worked up about knocking a off a litter of three month-old puppies with a quick bullet to the brain. On the other hand, everywhere has no-kill animal shelters now, and puppies like these would be prime candidates for adoption. That is what I would do.

I am seriously troubled at the relatively paltry offenses that can get one charged with "animal cruelty" nowadays. The guy was trying for a humane end. Geeze! Haven't any of these folks been to a slaughterhouse? We've all eat critters several times a week that died pretty much the same way.

Birdwatcher

I too feel that felony animal cruelty charges are getting to be too common. While this individual was irresponsible and let his bitch breed, was he being feloniously cruel by putting down the unwanted pups with a bullet to the brain? To my way of thinking, no, as the animals weren't suffering. And all the video and pictures of the pups show them as healthy, so while he had them, he was taking care of them. It's a different era, no doubt.



I just know that any day now someone is going to get arrested for feeding live mice to their snake, or live goldfish to their Oscars.



Now take the case of a local idjit dousing a cat with lighter fluid and igniting it. While the cat managed to live through the incineration, it needed to be put down, and had to have been suffering horribly. I figure that a little biblical justice might be in order here, but then I happen to like cats well enough. To the point of rescuing a kitten out of a dumpster, and within a week spending hundreds on vet bills for the little bugger.



Oh, and this story is getting plenty of media attention nation and world wide. It was on two of the local (Sacramento) TV stations, as well as being on of the headlines on Yahoo! news as well.



Regards,

Scott

Eating critters for food and killing them due to ones laziness is a little bit different. This guy should have had his dogs fixed. SInce he didn't do that he should have kept her up. Since he didn't do that he should have taken the pups to a shelter where they might have been adopted. This guy is a pathetic example of a pet owner. His lack of responsibility is downright wrong. I have no qualms about killing an animal I am going to eat. I don't kill what I don't eat. There are other alternatives. What this guy did was wrong and I hope they hang his butt out to dry. I am not an animal activist but I see no need in senseless killing. I see from your reply you don't either. Pet ownership is a responsibility just as being a parent is. If you don't want the responsibility then don't get the animal. If you do get an animal then take proper care of it or suffer the consequences. Period!!!

Jim

Scott,

Certainly you don't think a bullet to the brain is a humane end? The mice and the goldfish scenario is a little far fetched. Both are food for the other animal. I don't think this guy should be facing a felony either. I think he needs to pay a big fine and be banned from pet ownership for a couple of years. After that he should only be allowed a pet that has been fixed and is not capable of reproduction. What makes you think they didn't suffer when he shot them? Do you think they died instantly with absolutely no pain? Personally, would you rather have someone shoot you in the head or would you rather have an injection and be put to sleep? That's not very hard to answer now is it? This guy was saving money. He didn't give a darn about a "Humane" ending for these little pups. Anyone who would do this is a pretty heartless jerk. Just like the guys who doused the cat. It is cruel and there is no need for it.

Jim

So now its come down to we don't kill any animals we aren't willing to eat? I guess no more prarie dog or groundhog "murders". Heck, let the horses break their leg. Mice in the house? I guess we can use live traps. Coyotes? Maybe we can find some members of societies that eat dog. No more flyswatters! I wonder what cockroaches and ants taste like?

What a stupid reply. Could you think of nothing more original than that? I guess from your reply your are rather limited. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> It is my choice not to kill what I don't eat. But animal cruelty is animal cruelty. PS: Let me know how bugs and such taste. I have a better idea of what could be done with them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Jim

One of the reasons I don't hang around certian dog hunters, deer dogs get killed all the time by their owners. I've seen it and frankly did not care for it. I know there is nothing you can do with a deer hound that wont hunt, nobody is going to adopt one so they get put down in the woods and nobody hears about it.

Perhaps I need to make myself more clear. I'll admit I should have used some smiley faces to let some people know that I was speaking "tongue in cheek".

Let me tell you what animal cruelty is. Around the end of August this year, a 77 year old man in the Huntington WV area was wanted (and last I knew still had a warrant out for his arrest) for hooking a rope to a mule and dragging it, still alive, for 1/2 a mile down the road. It had to be "put down" afterwards. That's animal cruelty, no ands, buts, ifs, etc.

On the other hand, if a person has had a stray dog dumped off at their house (common in rural areas), and it's mangy, ribs sticking out, pus running out of its eyes, slowly starving to death and looking for anything to eat, maybe chasing chickens or livestock, and you put it out of its misery instead of calling the dogcatcher to haul it off (who will do the same thing)- that's not animal cruelty! Furthermore, when we make the latter a FELONY, now that's scary! Amongst other things, you can NEVER own a gun, work at certain places, or in many areas ever vote again. Once you start down that road, how far until all hunting is a felony? Incrementally of course. We've already outlawed dog hunting for bear & mountain lion, and regularly have protesters anytime a proposed herd thinning of park deer is brought up.

I'm not for the wanton killing of animals. I personally rarely meet a dog I don't like, but we need to use a little discretion here. I am under the impression from some cattle owners I've talked to, (never being in that business myself) that they "put down" sick & diseased cattle themselves and drag off or bury the carcasses. Would they need to get the appropriate government permits and pay a "dogcatcher" to handle this chore if we continue down the primrose path of ever widening animal cruelty laws?

Sick and diseased is a whole different story. These were the offspring of a pet dog that was not neutered and not kept up. Please read my earlier post where I said a Felony conviction for this is too much.

This post is about a fellow who killed some puppies because he was too freaking lazy to keep his dog up or too freaking cheap to get it fixed. It has nothing to do with sick, injured or abandoned animals. PERIOD!!!!!

PS: My smiley faces were meant facetiously <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Banned by who? Apparently you and I have different opinions on the roles governments should have in our lives.



Strange words to hear from a hunter? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



dave

Evidently we do David my boy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Not strange at all. It was meant to make a point. There is a big difference between killing pets and killing pests, predators, or in self defense. Stick around. I am sure you will hear stranger......IE "it is ok to kill defenceless little pets because of owners laziness or ineptness" . See there is one right there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Try to have a nice day.