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#3447434 - 11/03/09 10:27 AM If someone threatens your child?
prairie dog shooter Offline
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This is not a hypothetical question.

The parent of a school bully has threatened my eleven-year-old son.

There have been two incidents with this kid. My son was struck and jabbed with a pencil. He was sent to see the school nurse about the injuries. The nurse called us. My son did not fight back; he got away from the kid and reported it to the assistant principal. My wife and I addressed this with the school principal. The kid and his mother denied everything. The bully was not punished because he and his mother stood fast on their denial.

The principal told my wife and I that she was convinced they were lying. Her answer was to move that kid into another class away from my son and to warn the mother and her son that “if he so much as touched another student” he would be sent to an alternative placement campus. As you can guess, that had no effect and before they got around to moving the kid he threw a pencil at my son. The teacher saw it, addressed and reported it. The kid gets moved.

On Friday, this kids mother comes to school during lunch, seeks out my son in the school caffiteria, and threatens him. My son immediately reported it to the assistant principal who was on duty and present when this happened. When my wife and I spoke to her that afternoon she told us that the principal was going to handle this one and would be back on campus Tuesday.

Monday evening our son had to perform in a school concert. He did not want us to leave his sight because he was “afraid that lady might come up to me again”.

I saw the woman was at the concert so I stayed where my son could see me. After the concert I spoke to the woman. I introduced myself as the father of the little boy she had threatened and told her not to approach or speak to my son. She didn’t have a clue who I was before I told her. There were plenty of adults standing there while this was taking place. (The boy’s Father is deceased and there is no male in that household or I would have been talking to him instead of the mother.)

Her reaction was exactly what I expected, initial denial, and then admitting it and trying to justify her behavior. That was the reason I decided to speak to her in the presence of others. As I expected, she flew off the handle and became vulgar as we left.

I called the police to file a complaint. The officer came out and took our statements but told us nothing could be done other than file a report. We are pursuing action through the school system but I know that will not solve the problem.

Now don’t misunderstand guys, I know exactly what has to be done to handle a bully. My son is capable of putting this kid down when the time comes for that. I will protect my son from this crazy woman.
What I need to know is; what other actions should a reasonable and prudent person take before this situation has to be dealt with? What does it take to have a restraining order put against this woman to keep her from having contact with my child? Are there any measures I can or should pursue through the legal system before this gets where I am afraid it is heading?

What would you do in my situation?
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#3447453 - 11/03/09 10:33 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
ltppowell Offline
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Registered: 10/12/04
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Loc: SE Texas
A "restraining order" is very difficult to obtain in Texas when it doesn't involve family violence. If the other kid is older than ten, criminal charges can be sought. The most important thing to remember in your particular situation is that the school is RESPONSIBLE for your childs safety when he is there. A simple call, or letter (even better) to the principal, CC'd to the school board from an attorney will probably fix your problem.
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#3447458 - 11/03/09 10:35 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
LeonHitchcox Offline
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Registered: 05/16/05
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First off, the school has an obligation to keep that woman away from your son. How she got into the position to be in the school and threaten him is something I would like to know.

You have taken the right steps by notifying the school that she was trying to threaten and intimidate you son on their watch and by your notifying the police. Now you have a paper trail. If anything else happens, you have her in a very damaging position.

Stay in touch with school officials and see what followup has been taken. If they don't protect your son, they are a position to be held liable.

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#3447463 - 11/03/09 10:36 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
Redneck Offline
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Registered: 01/28/01
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Loc: TAXHELLWI. USA
First off, you've done well so far.. Having that little episode where others can (and did) hear was stellar.. Now you got witnesses.

You can try for a restraining order but they're usually about as worthless as Obama.. Since the mother didn't actually touch you or your son the cops can only file a report, and nothing else (IMHO).. If she ever does actually assault you or your son you can then have her arrested and charged.

I would again talk to the principal - mention this last part (" As I expected, she flew off the handle and became vulgar as we left.") and let them know that (a) this occured on school grounds and (b) the control of this woman and son is THEIR responsibility while on their grounds and (c) if it happens again the school will be in deep Pelosi..

Good luck sir.. And let us know what transpires..
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#3447469 - 11/03/09 10:38 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
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How old is your son?
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#3447471 - 11/03/09 10:39 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: LeonHitchcox]
TooDogs Offline
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I'd seek consul with a lawyer. The school has to be careful of it's position and actions to avoid the woman claiming her rights were violated. My experience with my kids schools, though limited, makes me believe they are mostly interested in covering their azz first, and your concerns second.


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#3447472 - 11/03/09 10:40 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: ltppowell]
big drift Offline
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Registered: 08/01/05
Posts: 1313
Apply for HRO anyway once granted it then takes the school out of play and directly into the courts hands. You may also want to make a phone call family services with a mental health concern call for the mother. If she is going after kids there is an issue.

Some LEO's unfortunately do not want to deal with issues like this and pass it along to the schools vice versa which results in nothing getting done or done to late.

The HRO eliminates that right away it compels both groups to act.

We went thru this last year with my daughter.

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#3447505 - 11/03/09 10:57 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
prairie dog shooter Offline
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Loc: Texas
Up date.

I just came out of our meeting with the school principal. That woman has been barred from entering any school property or school function. The principal is standing firmly in our corner. For now anyway.

However, this woman will go ballistic when she is told latter today. I expect some type of retaliation. Soon.
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#3447511 - 11/03/09 10:58 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
mathman Offline
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Registered: 06/03/04
Posts: 19405
You've done well so far. Just don't tell her you already have the hole dug.

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#3447512 - 11/03/09 10:59 AM Re: If someone threatens your child? [Re: prairie dog shooter]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 54506
Loc: Behind Enemy Lines KSA
You have been doing everything right, since she made threats on your son though, I damn sure would go after an RO, no matter how hard they are to obtain. I would have no more contact with her at that point, if perchance she did encounter my child and threaten again, I'd put my wife on her with the marchin orders to whup her ass and do it well!
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