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I'm getting tired of looking at for sale stuff in the fly fishing forum all these days, so here's a flyfishing post!
I was given an 8 weight Sage rod last year that was used on the Miramichi. My friend used to tie flys for a fellow that fished all over the World. He passed away and left my friend a whole bunch of stuff. He gave me a rod. Now, he has an opportunity to stay at a lodge and has asked me to come along. As of today, I am going the first week of September. I've got 10 months to gather information on what to expect and what I need. My buddy has some of the flys he inherited that he plans to fish. He wants me to tie a classic salmon fly and get it wet there and put it in a frame. I suppose that's a thing flyfishermen do. I'd like to catch a salmon! Well if anyone has some info, advice... I've got 10 months.
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Dude!! Thats pretty cool!! I don't know salmon from shinola...I just thought I'd stop by and say "good on'ya" for your upcoming trip... In September, I'll be chasing Brookies.... Ingwe
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We were all supposed to go to Marathon Keys this past December, but it fell through because my friend couldn't get the time off, and we were out of luck. I'm hoping this stays together. September is a long way off.
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Dude!! Thats pretty cool!! I don't know salmon from shinola...I just thought I'd stop by and say "good on'ya" for your upcoming trip... In September, I'll be chasing Brookies.... Ingwe Call me silly but I'd rather fish for Brookies than Atlantics. As a matter of fact I consider shooting a brace of grouse and catching a couple Brookies in the same day a great day!
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Rob P: Never done Atlantic salmon, but dream of doing it some day. I've caught a ton of summer steelhead though, and no longer will go out of my way to catch a trout. I actually get pissed if an 18 inch trout hooks up while I'm steelheading. I still do trout, but only when it's convenient.
Good luck on tying the classic flys. Ninety percent of the effort will be securing the materials.
Hope it comes together. Fishing is important enough that when I write it in the schedule, it will happen whether the buddies can go or not.
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In September, I'll be chasing Brookies.... :grin
Call me silly but I'd rather fish for Brookies than Atlantics. As a matter of fact I consider shooting a brace of grouse and catching a couple Brookies in the same day a great day! If you can do that here, plus get a deer of some kind on the same day..we would call that a " Montana McNabb " Ingwe
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Rob,
I guided for atlantics for a number of years. Find a copy of Gary Anderson's "Atlantic Salmon: Fact and Fantasy-- probably one of the best all-iclusive books out there that won't cost an arm and a leg. Be prepared for the west coast greased line techniques. Yes, flies can be too big, always have patterns that go down to size six, and maybe even eight. Often times an atlantic will show himslef (flash) at a fly. That's all he'll do. See that twice, put on a fly a size or two smaller.
Don't go spending an arm and a leg on special leaders. Normal tapered leaders, of nine to twleve feet that are rated to eight pounds, OK, six pounds maybe, is all you'll need. Good rod, a reel with a VERY good drag, a good distance of fresh backing and a quality floating line, and a slow sink tip and you're kitted up.
Have fun. djd
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Oh man, I envy you. The BIG M! Haven't fished there in 30 years but dream of going back. Contact WW Doak in Doaktown New Brunswick. The Miramichi is their home water. I order most of my fly tying stuff from them, great source of salmon stuff. www.wwdoak.com is your portal to Atlantic Salmon heaven.
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In September, I'll be chasing Brookies.... :grin
Call me silly but I'd rather fish for Brookies than Atlantics. As a matter of fact I consider shooting a brace of grouse and catching a couple Brookies in the same day a great day! If you can do that here, plus get a deer of some kind on the same day..we would call that a " Montana McNabb " Ingwe And then if you bedded down the little lady, you'd have a Royal Montana McNabb!!!
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And then if you bedded down the little lady, you'd have a Royal Montana McNabb!!!
I cannot make her stop trying for her own McNabb long enough!!! Her she is after Brookies in Sept... Ingwe
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Bubba, you are truly blessed.......
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Thanks man! Here she is fishing in October a couple years back... And here she is on the day she GOT a McNabb!!!!!! Ingwe
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Oh God!!!! My eyes, my eyes!!!! I'm going blind. Please tell me that spinning reel was just a prop.
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Yep...its a prop... So far as you know........... Hey, nobody's perfect... At least we didnt use it with a casting bubble and a fly!!! Or a Wo... God NO! I can't even print it....let alone SAY it.... Ingwe
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I don't know what the meaning of life is, but until I find out, catching fish out of mountain streams and good looking women will do.
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Fred...throw in a good dog to go with you, and cold beer waiting at the truck..... And you're livin' as "large" as any man has a right to.... Ingwe
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Boy, I heard a story that the salmon don't eat when they come up the river. You've got to make them angry to strike. A guy tells me a fly called a black bear, red butt or a black bear, green butt is the fly. You cast out a sinking line and tuck the rod under your arm and strip like crazy in hopes of irritating a salmon into hitting. I find that an odd way to fish. I wonder if that's what the other folks here do.
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That is just one of several methods. You can dead drift a dry fly or skitter it. You can fish a streamer such as the Mickey Finn in a variety of classic styles. Another very effective trick is to use a riffle hitch on a wet fly, often a simple hair wing. One of my favourites is the Hoot Smith Special, a simple hair wing consisting of a Black Bear wing and hot pink floss for a body. Some variations also have a soft black hackle tied in beard style. Want some flash? Add a rib of pink Krystal Flash. The Black Bear_______Butt series are great too.
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Rob,
treoutfly is absolutely spot on about the riffle hitch. It truly can work wonders. The black bear series are good, tried and true flies. I like the undertaker as well.
The salmon do not "eat" when they come up river, but rtaher strike out due to either their brain remembering something from their juvvie life, or out of aggression or curiousity.
You can do that strip like mad thing, but if the river has a good current, then the riffle hitch or the greased line is, IMHO, the way to go. On the surface, buck bugs and bombers, flies that throw a big wake, can be deadly. Green machines as well.
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Another good choice, esp to riffle with are the various Rat series. Classic stuff such as featherwing streamers also work well on the Miramichi. There is a series of featherwing streamers esp for that region IIRC.
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