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In the 308, she has always used 180 gr Partitions behind the shoulder, never lost an animal, and rarely needed a second shot.
Moose are not really that hard to kill.
Ted
I'll bet they ran a long way hit like that with such a crappy bullet
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Two 180 NP's recovered from two bull elk:
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When the sun, moon and stars align, this is what a TSX looks like pulled from an elk: When things don't go as planned, this is what they look like: I know what I'll put my faith in...
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Here's a 180gr. Partition shot from my 30-06. Victim was a 192 pound boar. Neck shot. Bullet was found under the hide on the far side.
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“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Another bullet option available that doesn't get much press on the boards is the new Trophy Bonded Tip. My son and I used the Federal 165gr. TBT in his 30-06 this past June in Namibia. I came away extremely impressed with the bullet. On the menu was Gemsbok, Kudu, Blue Wildebeest, and Mountain Zebra. The only recovered bullet was from my mountain Zebra, and the shot was a bit over 350 yards.
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Nice, but no doubt the wider frontal area inhibits penetration a wee-bit... at the end of the day, for me, the NP is the high water mark... does everything well, and nothing to an extreme.
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The bullet above was dug out of the Zebra's hip bone.
All the other bullets had no trouble completely penetrating the Zebra, two blue Wildebeest, five Gemsbok, a Kudu....
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One of Sitka Deers Accubonds that don't penetrate. All this one did was go the entire length of a buck AFTER smashing the hip joint at an impact speed of 2900 fps. And retain 70% of it's weight. Fookin' POS.
The CENTER will hold.
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You need to get a real camera...
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My real cameras all use this stuff called "film", and I ain't going there! (I also have several digital cameras) I will say, that's one beef I have with the iPhone. Camera won't focus up close, as you can see. Sorry.
The CENTER will hold.
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Have we proven that the 308 is better again?
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I dunno about "better".... that subject is subjective.... However, after our trip to Namibia I walked away with a rekindled/renewed sense of appreciation for the .308 caliber.
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From what I have seen on this and other threads, I will use partitions and/or the TSX without any worries.
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I would extend that to include a whole pile of other "premium" bullets.
Mostly I have found that any of the recent (past 20 years or so) so-called premium bullets will work on game bigger than deer when shot out of a .308, and some of the non-premiums will do nicely as well.
Humans were killing moose neatly with centerfire rifles a long time before we had such magic bullets.
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I am sure that is true, John.
Funny thing is, debates about what bullet is best for a given hunting scenario is one of my favorite things to read about here.
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Why does "guns and hunting" get bleeped? i have no idea
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I have seen my partner shoot a couple of moose with a 308,both some 20+ year old 180 Silvertips he had.One moose went three steps,the other two,both heart lung shots. The moose that went two steps,went one step too far,down an embankment. All those TSX look too damm skinny,I remember that moose that went two steps.
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i'd use a bag of rocks if it meant gettin' him close to the truck before he dropped corbon is loading 308 with xxx's in lapua brass for about $45 or so a box.... seems like a reasonable plan..... woofer
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