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I've recently read that there has been talk in Albany about allowing the use of Crossbows in our State. Are you for or against this Idea and Why?


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I'm for the idea. I hunt with some older guys who can't pull the bow anymore and it galls me that they have to sit out our pathetic little bow season up north and wait for mzload. I grew up in Ohio and the use of crossbow there has not adversely effeted deer hunting. Ofcourse, Ohio has common sense game laws, bag limits unlike NYS.


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I have zero experience with xbows. My question for the guys that are too old or in poor health and can't pull a vertical bow is how do they cock the xbow and hold it steady enough for the shot? Also, do they use them in tree stands, seems kind of difficult.

I have a feeling most of the people using the xbow will be the ones that are too lazy to practice with the vertical bow and will go into the woods with no knowledge of the capabilities of the weapon or themselves resulting in more wounded and lost game.

In the end, I would bet NYS will allow it at some point in all archery seasons for the increased license revenue.


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I am not against crossbows however they have no place in the archery season. if the state wants to open a crossbow season that is ok as long as it isn't part of the archery season.


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
I am not against crossbows however they have no place in the archery season. if the state wants to open a crossbow season that is ok as long as it isn't part of the archery season.


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I am against it

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For the handicapped it would be fine or during general firearm season...


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I for one wish we could use Cross Bows. I injured my shoulder and had to give up bow hunting 6 years ago.


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A crossbow is no more a bow than a 30-06 is a muzzleloader. No place for them during archery season in my opinion. Florida's trying to push the same bunch of crap. If your handicapped you can use a crossbow in Florida during archery season.


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what would an original american indian say???? most likely hunger would be the motivation. but thats not the issue. we live in a land of opportunity and 'rights". lets all believe that we have to respect others viewpoints and needs. a compound is nomore a "bow" than the original long "stick", than is the recurve, than is an xbow. but that is also not the issue. apples to apples, the compound will outperform an xbow(physics) in the total hunting perspective (distance, draw wt, speed, shaft wt, broadhead design, expertise,) does it really matter if the hunter in the next woodlot is using "your" legal weapon of choice. not your decision only your opinion. so what if he "misses" the fun,commitment,satisfaction,challenge, of practice. so what if he just takes it off the rack and harvests aan animal it wasnt your animal and it wasnt your hunt just be thankful that a fellow sporstman involved himself (her)in our activity and contributed to the future of what we all hope to preserve. the choice to hunt or not. leave the how to the individual .its also their land of opportunty!

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Good stuff.
I favor the use of the xbow.
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This is for you NY guys to decide.
I still prefer my Hoyt bow, but didn't hesitate to buy a crossbow when PA made them legal last year. Many myths were dispelled, as those from Ohio were telling us.
--The woods didn't get overcrowded, the archery success rate went up only slightly and our overall deer kill went DOWN for 2009. The deer herd didn't get "devastated" as many feared.
Many young kids were able to harvest their 1st deer ever with the crossbow and I saw more than a few photos of kids hunting with their grandparents. Who wouldn't like that?

I could pull a 100 LB bow back if I had to and cocked my 200 LB crossbow by hand a few times, but so what? He-man stength doesn't mean I should be hunting with a recurve only. lol
Crossbows a fun. Not as fun as a bow, but enjoyable.

Around my area, gun hunters wound more deer by far, season after season.

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the more we have hunting the more money is spent for support.not everyone who buys a crossbow will stay with it.there as heavy or heavier than some guns.the speed is what sells them.but to shoot 300 fps a 70 lb. bow verses a175 lb cross bow plus noisey most people will have to buy a cocking device .but lets not gripe and welcome all who want to keep hunting .

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Originally Posted by Hawken
I've recently read that there has been talk in Albany about allowing the use of Crossbows in our State. Are you for or against this Idea and Why?


Hawken.., What have you been reading, and what exactly is being said ? I would like to know what is being said there in Albany, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this interest.

I do like to hunt with my compound, and would also like to shoot instintively with a long bow and be proficient enough to hunt with one.

Yet, I also have an interest in the Crossbow.

In the end, it is the broadhead that does the actual blood letting, so it matters not as to how it is propelled to me.

I would support the use of the Crossbow for hunting.


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I been hunting (bow) for more then 40 plus years and now at 63 years old I may only have a few years left:the shoulders are almost gone .I like bow hunting started with a long bow and then upgraded to the first allen and so on.I have nothing against a cross bow hunter in the regular bow season.I wish n.y. would start a M/l season early like most states the black powder late in n.y. is ruff weather is cold not many hunter pushing the deer
in late season or on the other hands after the opening day not many hunters left in the woods.

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i am definitely for a crossbow/archery combination season. i'm still pretty efficient with my browning but it gets tougher as you get older. i would only imagine that most of the people who are against crossbows are of the younger set. i've been bowin' most all my life and do not relish the idea of not being in the woods early fall because i am unable to draw anymore.

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ken take a close look at who is against crossbows! do they use longbows (traditional). what is (was) their position on compounds when mr allen arrived on the scene. why does an organization that "claims" its membership is against crossbows (never asked my opinion when i was a member)have so much "political" leverage? this minority strength is a sad and dangerous situation! last i checked i still lived in a country that protects "reasonable" choices. take ontario county, just because rifles are likely now legal i dont have to use one. same for crossbow. if yhou dont like them dont use one. your privledge to choose is being fought and died for this very moment. in the scheme of life is this crossbow issue that important. do you really care and more importantly should you care what "weapon of choice" the person in the next woodlot uses (legally)? in my simple minded world the only time the weapon of choice issue was worth "discussing" was when General Custer was feeling a little overwhelmed on the little big horn. hopefully the "exclusion" individuals and organizations will unite with the concepts of this countrys values and realize that a united fraternity can develop intelligent choices for all!

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200,000 bowhunters in ny, an organization of 2000 (?), which never to my or a life members knowledge ever polled its membership pertaining to xbows is referenced in a ny outdoors newspaper stating "its membership is anti xbow" and credits its organization aqs being the tip of the spear in albany that blocks the legislation. the organization can, due to apathy or non involvement of the majority, i suppose can make "questionable" claims till the majority awakens! please wake up majority. there are many who need the support to engage in a wonderful past time at with no documented ill affect to any other participants. its a big woods out there and we need to be united to protect all our interests not just the personal agendas!

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I do not have a problem with +bow if you are disabled or some other legitimate affliction to be used in regular season .how about used in muzzle loading season .We have so many different things special use equipment hunts dates seasons it is kind of a mess Would not like to split it up even more .here in mo.

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at the very least get some kind of season in place so that those who need to/want to can get into the woods and become positive,contributing participants

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