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Going to hunt pigs with a friend in California where "lead" bullets are not allowed, so I am looking for good advice on how to make a load for both 7mm Mag and 25-06 in all copper TSX's, which I have never loaded for.
I have 50 ea of 100gr .257 TSX and 150 gr 7mm TSX. I don't have enough time, bullets to go through a lengthy process.
What I have in stock is IMR: 4350,4831 RL: 15, 17, 19, 22 as well as H1000 and Retumbo. I am using Win Brass. Primers avail are Fed 210/215, CCI 200/250, and Rem 9.5.
So I am looking for any advice on what componets, ingredients, and seating.
Without any response I believe on the .257 I would go with 4831 at 1.0 gr below book max, Fed 210, seated .050 off. On 7mm I would go with R19 at 1.0 off max, Fed 215, seated .050 off lands.
Any advice?
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I use 55.5 grains of Retumbo and Federal Primers with the 100 TSX in my 25-06.
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Go with the RL17 in the 25-06. Alliant's website lists a load for a 100gr bullet.
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Follow Barnes' advice and start 50 thousandths off the lands. My 25-06 likes R-22 but I'm not shooting copper bullets. Their manual lists the following for the 100 TSX:
Retumbo, 55.5-60 grains, 3093-3301 fps
R-22, 50.5-55.5 grains, 3101-3320 fps
R-19, 49-54 grains, 3072-3306 fps
IMR4831, 48-52.5 grains, 3072-3284 fps.
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Too bad you're not shooting 115 TSXs at those piggys! It is what I use when going after Ca pigs[50.5 H4831sc/115TSX], if I'm using my 25-06. You want a pretty stout bullet for hogs. Tom
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I have found that 53gr of IMR4350 with the 100gr TSX, Fed 210, and WW brass works great in the .25-06. It yields about 3300fps in my 22.5" barrel.
I typically use IMR4831 in the 7RM, and in my rifle it is more accurate than RL22, which is also very common. I like to use CCI 250 with RP brass in 7RM. I use 67gr of powder, which is way over max in modern loading manuals. If you don't have time or means to do a lot of load work up, I would use 62gr to play it safe, which should yield around 3000fps.
Load both cartridges to 0.050" off the lands. I have found that some TSX loads like to be seated farther off the lands than that, but 0.050" is a good bet for a generally accurate seating depth with this bullet design.
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I use the same load as Jordan with the 100 TSX in the .25-06, except with H4350, with excellent accuracy. Muzzle velocity is around 3350 from a 24" barrel. This bullet is plenty for pigs.
Either brand of 4831 is great in the 7mm Magnum with 150's, but the rifles tend to vary quite a bit in how much powder they'll take. But as Jordan said, 62 should be safe in about any, and will work on the piggies as well.
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First, get those tubes clean as a whistle.
Then work up loads suggested by Mule Deer ^^^.
Then go kill some pigs - either rifle will work..
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I cannot be of much help on the 7mm loads as I use 160 grain TSX bullets in my 7mm Wby Mag.
However, you are certainly on the right track for the 25-06. I load 54 grains of IMR 4831 behind the 100 grain TSX and use Fed 210 primers. I live right in the middle of this stupid California lead ban and have had great success shooting hogs with the 100 grain TSX. I shot one the other day that I could not hardly move. It was the largest I had ever shot, maybe close to 400 pounds live weight. When I finally got it to the truck two of us could not load it. We had to drive the truck down in a ditch and roll it in. That 100 grain TSX went through both shoulders at around 300 yards.
Having said that, I have a buddy who has shot a pile of hogs using the 115 grain TSX in a .257 Wby mag. LOTS of one shot kills!
Just follow the data in the Barnes manual or their data online and be sure to seat the bullets at least 0.050 inch off the lands. With the TSX more of a jump is better than less.
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Thanks guys. I'm going to load up some 4831 loads with Fed 210s. I'll let you know how that goes.
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Good luck with the hog hunting a 100gr TSX will be a hammer for piggys they are not bullet proof and not hard to kill. If you can't find a load .050 off the lands that produces try just short of the lands. All my rifles I seat .010 off the lands with great results. My 25-06 is seated in the lands but I wouldn't reccomend that unless you are going to start at the bottom and work up. You will like the TSXs they are a great penetrating bullet. HAPPY HUNTING
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