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dooode you can keep your wolfs, healthcare, and firearm restrictions in Canada.
We don't want them.
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Logcutter- Saddly, things will never be the same. We will never see the game populations in many areas where they have been before wolves. Oportunities for sportmen and women are diminished.
Tangozulu - One can't compare grizzlies to wolves. Grizzlies are mostly solitary animals that tend to have large homeranges. Grizzlies are omnivores, feeding on whatever is available (fish, plants, dead carcass, a moose kill, ect.) Wolves kill in packs and kill opportunisticly. They will kill the young and weak. They kill livestock because it is available and easy. I wish we could poison all the wolves!
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Idaho had Wolves before the re-intro.I saw them on many occasions and heard them howling but that was not the plan to listen to the local people and FS studies.There minds were made up before the studies they ignored and here we are.
Your right trouthunterdj,things will never be the same..Except shooting Wolves legally means more to me than Elk anymore and it's a longer season.
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So lets say we poison all the grizzlies in Alaska? Would it not be a bit diminshed? A little less wonderfull......... So why is Montana and Idaho better without wolves and a safe place for cows and sheep? Now that you are finally able to hunt these wolves I hope there is more tollerance for a fantatic animal. Tangozulu in BC we can hunt wolves whenever we want,no tags and in some areas NBL.It's a different situation south of the line,with the Feds telling the states what they can and can't do,and the bunny f**kers filing lawsuits left,right and centre.There basically is no management,and the wolves are multiplying fast.Poison isn't an alternative but control by culling and hunting is going to be neccesary if any of the game herds are to survive.Eventually the wolves will balance out,but by that time there will be nothing left for them to eat. Monashee
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Well obviously "you" do. dooode you can keep your wolfs, healthcare, and firearm restrictions in Canada.
We don't want them.
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So lets say we poison all the grizzlies in Alaska? Would it not be a bit diminshed? A little less wonderfull......... So why is Montana and Idaho better without wolves and a safe place for cows and sheep? Now that you are finally able to hunt these wolves I hope there is more tollerance for a fantatic animal. Tangozulu in BC we can hunt wolves whenever we want,no tags and in some areas NBL.It's a different situation south of the line,with the Feds telling the states what they can and can't do,and the bunny f**kers filing lawsuits left,right and centre.There basically is no management,and the wolves are multiplying fast.Poison isn't an alternative but control by culling and hunting is going to be neccesary if any of the game herds are to survive.Eventually the wolves will balance out,but by that time there will be nothing left for them to eat. Monashee I'll be the first to agree the situation has sucked up till now, but hey the hunt is now on. A mature wolf is a far tougher trophy than some old elk in my hunble opinion.
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Relocate the bastids to Texas, and get them accustomed to eating hogs. Now yer' thinking--hog control of the highest order....... Casey
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I'll be the first to agree the situation has sucked up till now, but hey the hunt is now on. A mature wolf is a far tougher trophy than some old elk in my hunble opinion. [/quote]
Man, I must be weird or something...I'd still rather have a big, heavy set of 6x6 elk antlers
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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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From what I'm hearing, there's many folks in both MT and ID that are taking matters into their own hands, preferring that to waiting on "the system." It goes beyond the SSS, and I hope it's effective and nobody gets caught doing it.
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We wiped them out once. If necessary and legal, we can do it again. It will be easier the second time. Better rifles and better poisons.
We exterminated them the first time for a reason. Their continued existence among ranchers and farmers was incompatible with the activities of such. That reason still exists. "Because they were there once" is no reason to re-introduce them. If you want them so badly, come up with something better than that.
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"At last count, at least 1,600 roam in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho........."
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Good but sad article.I wouldn't let my two dogs out to go potty when we were camped back in without me or someone packing was with them.Sad we have to do it that way nowadays. Jayco
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We wiped them out once. If necessary and legal, we can do it again. It will be easier the second time. Better rifles and better poisons.
We exterminated them the first time for a reason. Their continued existence among ranchers and farmers was incompatible with the activities of such. That reason still exists. "Because they were there once" is no reason to re-introduce them. If you want them so badly, come up with something better than that.
Fast Ed We exterminated deer, elk, bighorns, pronghorns, and moose, too--what was the reason again? Casey
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Good but sad article.I wouldn't let my two dogs out to go potty when we were camped back in without me or someone packing was with them.Sad we have to do it that way nowadays.
Jayco It ain't DisneyLand out there--never has been. Casey
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It ain't DisneyLand out there--never has been. Thanks for the warning.I am new at this outdoors stuff. Jayco
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We wiped them out once. If necessary and legal, we can do it again. It will be easier the second time. Better rifles and better poisons.
We exterminated them the first time for a reason. Their continued existence among ranchers and farmers was incompatible with the activities of such. That reason still exists. "Because they were there once" is no reason to re-introduce them. If you want them so badly, come up with something better than that.
Fast Ed We exterminated deer, elk, bighorns, pronghorns, and moose, too--what was the reason again? Casey It was good for farmers and ranchers?
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It ain't DisneyLand out there--never has been.
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Was out in the yard a few days ago, just 50 yards from the house, and had a wolf chase a deer right past me. The deer was only a couple of feet ahead of the wolf. Both were really fast! I've had wolves in the yard, and have seen wolves chase and/or kill deer out farther from the house, but right past me, 10 feet away, 50 yards from the house was a new one. It was way cool, the hair up on my neck, my .357 drawn. Way cool. I followed the trails for a few hundred yards where the two trails separated. Looked like the deer got away that time. Too cool! I love living here.
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Any dog,I see chaseing a deer, gets shot. dave
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