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I think you dudes would find a little reading on Martin Luther's concept of the right hand and left hand kingdom very interesting. Just saying.
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Did you know MLK used to be a registered Republican until Kennedy got him out of jail? Just a little trivia.
Proud to be a true Sandlapper!!
Go Nats!!!!
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I think Sarah will do very well on FOX.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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its a better place for her than public office
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I don't know anyone that fits neatly into a box. It just ain't that easy or that simple.
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'Often mistaken, never in doubt'
'Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge' Darwin
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And why is that dickhead?
Mainly for that very reason... you're a mean-spirited dipchit.
A person can be completely "right" and at the same time completely "wrong"... Excuse me for asking Brad, but you're not queer are you? Man you really are something. You made me laugh this morning Mr. Barkoff.............  If you recall the PM I sent you awhile ago, I'm sure you'd better understand much of what has transpired on this thread (and have a chuckle yourself). By the way, I'll be leaving for southern CA in a few days to spend a month or so with my daughter and grandchildren. Keep that sun shining will ya'............................... cause I have been freezing my butt off here in the Northeast since winter began. This will be the longest stretch I've spent in CA for quite some time and I'm a little worried that by staying there too long I may become somewhat "moderated" like you have. Oh my God............what would we have to scrap about here on the Fire if that happened?? Just remember, for every YIN, ya' gotta have a YANG........................ya' know?
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"who run all freedoms and liberties through the Bible filter. It's perfectly acceptable to them to restrict freedom and liberties that can't be found in the Bible filter."
This is what I was referring to.
I'm sorry I should not have been so flippin in my response. The Bible is the Revealed Word of God, so say the Christians. The Bible is one of the foundation blocks of Christianity. Most Christians especially on the Fire say this is a Christian nation and our founding documents are based on Bible/Christian principles. Therefore, it is logical to assume that Christians run freedom and liberty through the Bible filter.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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Sure they do.
Ashcroft violated Oregon's state's rights because of a Bible filter.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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How do you know where common knowledge of moral law ceases to overlap with the Bible? Morality is legislated all the time. Just where does it stop and start? I will say that many Christians are actually confused about where the moral code of the Bible ends and personal, denominational or societal opinion begins.
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How do you know where common knowledge of moral law ceases to overlap with the Bible? Morality is legislated all the time. Just where does it stop and start? I will say that many Christians are actually confused about where the moral code of the Bible ends and personal, denominational or societal opinion begins. I follow natural law. There are whole college courses and books dedicated to natural law studies. A college course in natural law is well worth one's time for a little study.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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When people say we need true conservatives in the Republican Party what they are really saying is we need ONLY Christian Conservatives in the Republican Party.
We're definitely on the same page. I never quite understood how the activist Christian Right could say they're for conservative values, such as personal responsibility and less intrusion by govt into our lives, and in the very next sentence they advocate laws that will dictate morality and which will be enforced by threat of imprisonment by the govt. Ayup. Or claim to want small, non-intrusive government and then want military and intelligence services big enough to dominate not just the US... but the entire world! Talk about government intervention...
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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When people say we need true conservatives in the Republican Party what they are really saying is we need ONLY Christian Conservatives in the Republican Party.
We're definitely on the same page. I never quite understood how the activist Christian Right could say they're for conservative values, such as personal responsibility and less intrusion by govt into our lives, and in the very next sentence they advocate laws that will dictate morality and which will be enforced by threat of imprisonment by the govt. Ayup. Or claim to want small, non-intrusive government and then want military and intelligence services big enough to dominate not just the US... but the entire world! Talk about government intervention... Corporate paranoia is just so cozy. Happy for you guys! 
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Well said, 458. Now for those who are claiming to be libertarians, you are fooling yourself. Rather, take your conservative values and help clean house in the Republican Party.
Kick out the rinos and other moderate misfits. If a republican talks about bipartisianship, don't let that go unchallenged.
A third party or a moderate republican is a gift to the democrats. The present rogue government should be a lesson to all of us.
Take back the Republican Party, Reagan did! From what I see, there's such disparity within the GOP right now, no one can really say for certain what a true conservative republican is or what constitutes conservative principles. DITTOS!!!!!! +1,000 When people say we need true conservatives in the Republican Party what they are really saying is we need ONLY Christian Conservatives in the Republican Party. When I moved to AK 13 years ago and registered to vote, I registered as a non partisan. I fealt then, and feel even more strongly now that the republican party did not represent my views, nor did any other party. The republican claims (lies) sounded close to how I thought the government should be run, but how those politicians acted in office was not according to what they claimed during elections. I don't see where the call for true concervatives in the Republican Party has anything to do with Christian concervatives. What I, and I believe most would like to see is small government concervatives.
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Government should be small and underfunded.
They should come to the people when they want money for anything.
Don't guess that will ever happen again.
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Everybody is addicted to the services big government provides.
Heck even grumpy old "kill the socialists!" conservatives would beat you with their canes if you messed with Social Security or Medicare!
I truly don't think anyone actually wants small government, or almost nobody. They want a big government that does what THEY want.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
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Everybody is addicted to the services big government provides.
Heck even grumpy old "kill the socialists!" conservatives would beat you with their canes if you messed with Social Security or Medicare!
I truly don't think anyone actually wants small government, or almost nobody. They want a big government that does what THEY want. DITTOS +1,000 When ever I hear anybody say we need less government or say let me do it myself I say so what part of government do yo want cut? Of course, it's always the same old argument gore the other guys ox, just don't gore my ox. I want the government to paid for my retirement and health care I just don't want the government to tell me what to do. It doesn't work that way.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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And while we are bashing Christians why are Christian Churches still claiming 501(C)3 tax status?
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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Heck even grumpy old "kill the socialists!" conservatives would beat you with their canes if you messed with Social Security or Medicare!
Maybe because they paid for those benefits.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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They didn't pay into it nearly what they'll be taking out, though. This is why the Baby Boomer Bulge is gonna kill us....
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
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And while we are bashing Christians why are Christian Churches still claiming 501(C)3 tax status? They don't. A church, temple, mosque simply does not have to file. There is no requirement to apply for a 501(C)3 status.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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