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Snip a coil off the spring, file a little off the sear engagement, polish the bearing surfaces. Probably something else could be done, but that's what most amateurs will do. You can do a search on it, and some sites will have diagrams with what to file, what to polish, etc. Amateurs? what do the professionals do? I know the one who worked on my vanguard when I sent it back to a factory authorized service center for repairs scratched the schite out of it and gouged it with something. That's why I don't let someone else work on my rifles.
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If it cost much at all to do a vanguard just wait till the timney's on sale and replace the POS. basically same money. Otherwise for a good trigger done right I let the pro's handle it. I've messed with a few and yeah it was "better" but still not comparable to a job by someone who knows ALL the intricatacies of the trigger being worked on. Some amateurs are more mechanically inclined and probably do a good job. For me; there is a measure of confidence knowing that I'm not "shade tree Bob with the hair trigger in the woods" LOL.
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NOTE the first sentence in your link: "The Ruger 77 trigger is one of the easiest factory triggers to rework. However, alterations to any firearm should be done only by a qualified gunsmith. This information is strictly for reference only and is not intended for use by anyone other than a qualified gunsmith." Specific trigger work is something I will not post here.. It's one of those liability thingys that can sink the Titanic.. Things you described in your second post above are things Bubba would try.. Problem is, the result can literally be fatal.. 'Nuff said..
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A bad trigger job can cost you alot.
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NOTE the first sentence in your link: "The Ruger 77 trigger is one of the easiest factory triggers to rework. However, alterations to any firearm should be done only by a qualified gunsmith. This information is strictly for reference only and is not intended for use by anyone other than a qualified gunsmith." Specific trigger work is something I will not post here.. It's one of those liability thingys that can sink the Titanic.. Things you described in your second post above are things Bubba would try.. Problem is, the result can literally be fatal.. 'Nuff said.. You don't have to be a "qualified gunsmith" to work on your guns. However, you do need to have a full understanding of the mechanisms you are working on. You do need to have correct tools such as ones a qualified machinist may have. You do need the ambition to want to do a precision job yourself and take pride in that. If you know you are not capable of doing this job yourself and you are man enough to admit that then kudos and let someone who is properly trained do the job. Well I have to go, my wife said the parts came for my dads mossberg 640kd chuckster and I have to do a trigger job on that aswell as replace the hammer, hammer spring, firing pin, extractors, trigger and trigger spring. Oh well, what do us amateurs know?
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You don't have to be a "qualified gunsmith" to work on your guns. Depends on the definition of the word, 'work'.. However, you do need to have a full understanding of the mechanisms you are working on. Yep, which is what the definition of the word 'amateur' lacks.. The word 'full', is operative there.. You do need to have correct tools such as ones a qualified machinist may have. Which the majority of amateurs lack. Oh well, what do us amateurs know? Sometimes, just enough to be dangerous.. As a parallel example: a professor in an Ag law course I took reminded us often, of this very true sentence: "A little knowledge of the law is a dangerous thing". Ya might wanna study that one a little, there, Chiefy boy... We got a few amateurs near me too.. They help pay for my monthly bills.. God love 'em...
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A wise man knows his limitations.
One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy over the good fortune of others. Archibald Rutledge
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We got a few amateurs near me too.. They help pay for my monthly bills.. God love 'em... That was mean.
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Redneck, if you are saying I can't work on my own guns because I'm not a "qualified gunsmith", you are an idiot. Maybe you should of stayed in school a little longer or maybe you stayed in too long. This is the real world here and in the real world, people like many on the campfire like tinkering on their toys (so to speak).
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Leave the insults to PM's
and yeah, tinkering is fun, but it can also kill you or the person next to you at the range if you don;t tinker right.
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Nice try, Chief.. But you might wanna quit while you're behind.. Read the post again and try to comprehend words..
It's been obvious for a long time why so many posters here have you on ignore..
Bye bye..
Last edited by Redneck; 02/14/10.
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