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You will note from my records that I do keep OAL records and these also need to be reviewed from time to time as bullet manufactuers changes bullet shapes without telling you, the consumer.
John
Oh so true. Another reason you don't want to be .005 or so from the lands to start with is because the ogive length will vary in a batch of bullets. Seen it enough to be a concern (to me anyway). I "find the lands", make sure the bullet fits in the magazine and give the seating stem a couple of twirls. Adjust from there after shooting. P.S. Used to measure base to ogive lengths until my eyes were crossed. Not so much anymore.
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been reading lots of this several times over loaded 25 plus years never heard of backing off to fix flyers but? sounds interesting have my doughts but will experiment as far as box to box ojive varies thinking your barrel lands will to every shot fired will incress lands distance a bit that is why you chase the lands the more you shot this hole deal conversation is interesting have shot compition for 10 years (not bench rest silhoutte but rub elbows with world record bench shooters and not heard of this idea ) so will stay chimed in my experiance is 80+ % shoot into lands but some like -20ths. off lands or so but will experiment with this idea with problem rifles
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Gunwriter from Oz, I haven't read all of the post in this thread but IMO the best bit of information in the entire thread has got to be your statement about not getting bound up with "generic" information and instead letting the rifle tell you what it wants.
Aim for the exit hole.
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Gunwriter from Oz, I haven't read all of the post in this thread but IMO the best bit of information in the entire thread has got to be your statement about not getting bound up with "generic" information and instead letting the rifle tell you what it wants. Being human, we tend to be a bit pompous at times. We know everything, and tend to make up the facts instead of relaxing and just observing them. That is why I recommend learning what your own rifle's prefer instead of dogmatically insisting that it is going to like .020" or .050" off the lands. Let the rifle tell you. It will also go the the trouble of proving it. John
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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Yep, but the problem is, some of my rifles lie......
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I unscrew the barrels on the rifles that lie and put on another barrel. They will drive you crazy, I think that something is wrong with the heat treat.
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