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I'm betting, by looking at your rigs, that you and I hunt entirely differently. Eye relief is a premium, period.

The 1.5-6x42 Flash Dot will and has,done it all.

dave

Scott, if you really want one,the Summit has as much pure eye relief as any Leupold variable,and likely more at the top end.Very similar to a Zeiss Conquest 3-9. Not trying to sway you one way or the other but just letting you know the Summit has plenty,if you have a bit of difficulty (like I do)adjusting to the 30mm's

The guy that was with me wants a scope for his 300 RUM as he preps for Africa; he liked the wide view at 2.5,and the eye relief as well.

This is just a great, no-nonsense, general purpose hunting scope,as straight-forward and useful as it gets.Really no larger nor more obtrusive than, say, a Leup 3.5-10.

i had the 1.5-6x42 klassik and it was good. I dropped it climbing a tree and then proceeded to nail 2 does @ 160 yards. However, the 3-12x42 S&B is "the" all-around scope. I prefer the 12x to the 6x and i dont miss seeing half of my barrel on 1.5x.
if dangerous game is involved then i would feel different

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dave

My favourite scope....S&B zenith 3-12x50...absolutely one of the best scope money can buy !

Nice set-up Konnari!!

That same scope will be going on my Sako 75 300 RUM as soon as I get it back. Its at GA Precision getting pillar bedded into a McMillan Sako 75 stock - should be done shortly.

I've had an 8x56mm S&B with an No7 reticule for a dozen years or so...Usually it sites on a .223 Rem for lamping foxes at night.

When I bought it, S&B were about 1/3 cheaper than Zeiss or Swaro in the UK; but not any longer....

Its a good scope and I've also used it on a 9.3x62mm firing rather warm 286grn loads, and it functioned fine....

The distance between the centre line of the scope and the bottom of the objective will be the same regardless of whether its built on a 1" tube or 30mm, so tube size alone won't affect the height of the scope.

What might is the diameter of the ocular housing. I've had a few S&B's over the years and their ocular housing have changed, even with in the same range. I am betting (ok guessing!) the 30mm scope will have a larger ocular housing which may need higher mounts so the bolt handle clears...



What would the difference be between a sepecial order No4 and S&B No7? I thought S&B No7 was their version of the generic European No4 reticule???

Tend to agree with the comments about the illuminated reticule especially for night shooting; wish I had gone that route myself!

no S&B #7 is like a 4a not a true 4. posts come closer together with a true 4

Sako75,

Cheers for that...I was forgetting the distinction between the post spacing...

Just looked at some of the scopes I have here and I have S&B with both true No4 and No7...

Do you guys get the Hungerian built S&B's over in the US?

Regards,

Peter

no they do not ship the hungarian to the USA

Alright...alright! Dave7mm & 300mag you made your point. Im going to try one on my next rifle. Leaning toward the Klassic 3-12x42.

slg888
Your gonna hate us.
dave

They are like Lay's potato chips, you can't stop at one....

Pete E
Back in the late 90s S&B brought out there extended eye relief models.They were all variables.These scopes were limited to just a few power ranges and the rear ocular housing got about .080 thousands of an inch bigger in diameter.The pre classic scopes had about 3.2 inches of eye relief.The new ER scopes have 3.7 inches.Later S&B converted all there variable power models to the ER with the slightly bigger rear eye piece.
If you look at the current specs for fixed S&Bs the rear oculars are smaller than the variables.And they have less eye relief.Im thinking that fixed S&Bs eye piece, are all pretty much the same size diameter.
I much prefer the look of a 30mm tube on a 56mm obj scope.
As a 56mm obj scope with a 1 inch tube,to me,loooks like something a Nazi might throw from a slit trench.(potato masher)
You are right that the distance between the centre line of the scope and the bottom of the objective will be the same regardless of whether its built on a 1" tube or 30mm.Yes.
But if they are mounted to the exact same height.The 30mm tube version will .0905 closer to the top of the reciever.
I used to think I knew alot about S&B.And then I talked to Alex Roy this week......

dave

I've not seen a 30mm fixed power...Do they offer more adjustment than the one inch models?

I have to confess I am thinking of selling my 8x56mm S&B...Since buying the PM11, I am a scope over so to speak, and I think my .223Rem might be better served with my 3-12x50mm Swaro with the illiminated reticule, but we'll see...

Here is another S&B scope that I love...the 1.5-6x42 with flashdot nr.7 its mounted on my Sauer 202 in 9.3x62

Well, after a long hiatus from S&B, I'm about to put a 4x Classic with a #9 on a .350 Rem mag.

Pete E

http://www.eurooptic.com/Schmidt-Be...ory=SF03&vendor=XXSB&parent=XXSB

I did not know S&B had a 30mm tubed 8x56 untill I started hanging out on the Euro Optics sight.I never took the 8x56 to serious as I detest the look of a 8x56 with a one inch tube.
This changes things up a bit.
I could not say about the adjustment range.I dought it would amount to much.

dave