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In your experience, what is the best 4-power scope (1" or 30mm) sold today, regardless of price? By best I mean best optics, most rugged, most user-friendly.

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Originally Posted by RipSnort
In your experience, what is the best 4-power scope (1" or 30mm) sold today, regardless of price? By best I mean best optics, most rugged, most user-friendly.

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That's easy


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S&B 4X36 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Leupold FXII


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I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).

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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope.


I had a S&B on a 338 Win Mag for several years. Never had a problem with eye relief with the recoil of a 338. Clear as branch water too. I like the #7 reticle too.

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Hard to find nowadays, but I like the Kahles Helia C 4x36 as the glass is better than the Leuopold. Weighs less and has better ER (3.6") than the S&B.

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Originally Posted by Ngrumba
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I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope.


I had a S&B on a 338 Win Mag for several years. Never had a problem with eye relief with the recoil of a 338. Clear as branch water too. I like the #7 reticle too.

That's cool. I'd still buy the Leupold. If I was going to buy a scope over 1K, I'd go ahead and get the S&B 2.5-10x40 Summit. It has 4"(3.93") of eye relief across the magnification range.

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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
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I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope.


I had a S&B on a 338 Win Mag for several years. Never had a problem with eye relief with the recoil of a 338. Clear as branch water too. I like the #7 reticle too.

That's cool. I'd still buy the Leupold. If I was going to buy a scope over 1K, I'd go ahead and get the S&B 2.5-10x40 Summit. It has 4"(3.93") of eye relief across the magnification range.


I paid $537 for mine new at the SCI show (a few years ago). They have gotten way too expensive now. I got offered $750 for mine after it was a few years old and sold it. I replaced it with a fixed 6X Leupold FXIII. I like the Leupold too.

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The Zeiss Conquest is nice cept for that damn big eyepiece


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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).



And about 1/6 the scope



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Never looked thru an S&B 4X but I bet they are nice.

Leupolds have worked fine for me.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).



And about 1/6 the scope



I'd call that pretty much bullshitt.


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There is a gun show here in Bozeman this weekend, and I saw a used Schmidt single power scope for under $500.00. I can't remember if it is 4 or 6 power. Does anyone have any interest in it?


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).



And about 1/6 the scope



I'd call that pretty much bullshitt.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).



And about 1/6 the scope



I'd call that pretty much bullshitt.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I like S&Bs too, but the eye-relief is only 3.3", whereas the Loopy has 4" of eye-relief. I'd have to buy the Loopy if I was looking for a 4x scope (Plus it's 1/3 the price of the S&B).



And about 1/6 the scope



I'd call that pretty much bullshitt.


Can't say I have any S&B experience, but its not like your going to look through a FXII (4x or 6x) and say "dam thats a bright clear scope". I like em because there light, trim, ok opically and I trust them to hold a zero.

I have seen the conquest and its a nice scope, but if I were willing to put up with the weight and size of the conquest there are a lot of other variable options.



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