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It's been going on for over a hundred years. We're not supposed to have a standing Federal army, income tax was to be raised only in time of war, Social Security, Federal Funding for education, transportation, blah, blah, blah.
There's 'bout nothin' left; well food and energy - but that's comin', too.
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Going Galt ain't just a bumper sticker anymore....
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My guess is that the House will pass the Dec. 24 Senate bill and that BO will sign it into law. Then the House will pass its 157 page fix bill and send it to the Senate. The Dems and the MSM will turn up the heat on the Senate (especially Republicans) accusing them of refusing to "fix" the bad Obamacare bill. Even if the Senate does change it and sends it back to the House, it seems that once the House members have passed one bad bill, it become easier to pass another.
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I see a Civil War brewing..................
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I see a Civil War brewing.................. Nope - there isn't enough guts to do it. Even if there was - what then?
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The amount of full time employees reverting to PT, unemployed or 1099 status will be mind boggling.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
William Arthur Ward
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The company I work for (for now - who knows if I'll have a job in the future as this kills our economy) is self insured. (no one would touch us for what we can do it for ourselves) I am guessing we are in for some surprises as well...
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This bill is going to cost tens of thousands of jobs. It is an absolute budget buster, it creates a new entitlement and adds 15,000 people to medicaid which is already teetering on the edge of bankrupcy.
This is the worst bill past in my lifetime.....................DJ
Remember this is all supposed to be for fun.......................
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I'm quitting working life and I am going to insist you all pay for everything I'm entitled to! I ain't paying anymore!
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
William Arthur Ward
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I'm quitting working life and I am going to insist you all pay for everything I'm entitled to! I ain't paying anymore! You are now a (D) party loyalist, or a politician.
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The bill will pass and pass tonight...the reconcilitations bill will drag on for awhile...but that doesn't matter. The only hope we have left is that it works it's way to SCOTUS and about 5 of the SCJ's have had around the clock protection so that bam bam can't appoint another one...
"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787)
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pissed me off to see that we in TX have not done it yet. WTF is gov good hair waiting for? He can direct.....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I figure he will...it is election year for him...
"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787)
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Going Galt ain't just a bumper sticker anymore.... That is the most profound statement I've heard all day...Going Galt is now a viable option...
One man with courage makes a majority....
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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I see a Civil War brewing.................. Maybe at least a States Rights war... on the battleground of the Supreme Court. Its been long overdue, hopefully they will be swamped with cases...
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Looks like the actual procedure was the one dj cited.
Go figure that they figured a way to ram this through.
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The amount of full time employees reverting to PT, unemployed or 1099 status will be mind boggling. I can live with it, I guess I have to along with everybody else, I'm fortunate to be in the biz I'm in and at the age I'm at both physically and career wise. had been toying with the whole 1099 status for awhile, have a file where I've been researching and compiling information. Today though it appears it's time to get serious about it. But man do I feel for the 28-35 year old crowd that just hung up their shingle to be in biz and hired a few folks toughest part of this gig is explaining to my boys what was fought for and paid in blood so I could have the opportunities I've had won't be there for them and all I did about it was throw some money at candidates that I thought believed in freedom and wrote a few letters. if the little bastages are half as smart as I pray they are, it's gonna be a tough sell wish me luck fellers, think this may be one of those AHA moments for them where the old man ain't all he's been cracked up to be.
"This ain't dress rehearsal....it's the life you get to live, make it a good one."
TEAMWORK = a bunch of people doing what I say
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Looks like the actual procedure was the one dj cited.
Go figure that they figured a way to ram this through. =========== You'll see tomorrow which procedure will be most accurate.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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