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Just this fear of armed revolt is why they must disarm us for toal control which will never happen. From our "Cold dead hands".

Doc

How in the hell can YOU speak for any of us?

You sound like a liberal talking........

I actually believe Barkoff...that if he felt what was a legitimate call to arms he would be there....and maybe he is so cynical is because he has heard this enough from fellow "2nd amendment cali's" that he doesn't believe

I stand corrected.

I'm speaking for you how?

Not to worry. I know people, patriots, with planes. Very, very fast planes. You need to be picked up, and it all came to where a gathering was necessary, Alaska is no problem. No worry about TSA either.

You said it! Some of these guys need to get back on their meds and take the Braveheart DVD out.....

There were those voicing all sides, throughout history.

Only time will tell what will, and what will not, be necessary. It always does.

And, I think time is quite short on this one.

Another BHO voter chiming in,.....?

Or just maybe a "It's cool to be blase" run of the mill Azzhole?

GTC

They can't see the forest for the trees, as already noted.........

No, I just can't see any of you doing anything but sitting here blowing wind about what you're going to do.

If and when I'm ready to pick up an arm, I'll tell you about it right before I head out the door..

Just do us one favor,....OK?

.....STAY in California! Better yet, move into East L.A.

Your gas blowin' gets as stupid as that grandstanding avatar of yours sometimes.

GTC

Grandstanding avatar? It's that same one I have had for the last five years...or do you refer to the green grouper?

I ain't the one to blow gas brother, just keeping it real.

Yeah, that stupid fish avatar.....


California stands to gain most from health bill

Victoria Colliver, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, March 22, 2010




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The stakes are high for Californians when it comes to the health care overhaul, mainly because the coverage problems in this vast state are so large.

With a new UCLA study estimating that more than 8 million Californians, or nearly 25 percent of the population, lack health coverage, many health experts say California will be impacted more than other states by the reform legislation.

"When this is fully implemented in 2014 or beyond, we will see some two-thirds or more (of the uninsured) getting coverage and, with that, better access to care and more affordable coverage," said Marian Mulkey, senior program officer for the California HealthCare Foundation, an independent philanthropy group based in Oakland.

But not everyone will benefit. Medicare beneficiaries who have certain types of policies may experience disruptions and high-income earners will pay more in taxes. And California will still be left with a large number of uninsured, including illegal immigrants, who either don't qualify for the reforms or are exempted from them.

A last-minute change proposed in the health care bill would benefit Kaiser Permanente, based in Oakland, which covers more than 6 million Californians, and other large nonprofit health insurers. Under the change, tax-exempt insurers would have to pay a new fee levied on insurers, but on only half of their premiums.

With key congressional leaders supporting the plan, California played an important role in moving it forward. The state also helped reignite the stalled debate over the legislation after many of Anthem Blue Cross' 800,000 California policyholders were hit with premium increases of as high as 39 percent.
Rate, cap rules

President Obama seized on the rate increases - which affected individual policyholders who buy coverage on their own rather than receiving it through an employer - in a bid to highlight the less savory practices of the health insurance industry.

The final package does not include the president's proposal to provide federal oversight for unreasonable rate increases. But it does contain a number of changes that will affect a state like California, where the market for individual health insurance operates largely unfettered by rules.

The legislation immediately forbids insurers from placing lifetime caps on how much they will spend on their members, and it prohibits insurers from unfairly canceling coverage. In 2014, when the mandate for Americans to have insurance goes into effect, insurers will be prohibited from denying coverage to people with pre-existing medical conditions.

For Medicare beneficiaries in California, the biggest changes will likely affect those in Medicare Advantage policies. People with Medicare Advantage plans receive medical and other health benefits through private insurance, typically in the form of a managed care plan.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/21/MN0L1CIJ56.DTL#ixzz0j3V9byKe

Well hell man, I didn't know you were bothered so easily, would you really like me to take it down?

It's already blocked,......

GTC

Are you grateful for the American Revolution?

Do you really think it just happened overnight?

No, dumbass, it took a LOT of talking and "melodrama" over YEARS of time before enough people got the nerve up to carry it out.

I'll be the FIRST one to say that I hope it never comes to armed conflict now, as I'm right in the middle of raising a family, but if it does I'll man up and carry it out...for their sake.

But this isn't about that, or you, or me....it's about what put us here, and who.

You are either on my side, or theirs.

You are either willing, or you are not.

You are either friend, or foe.

It's THAT simple............

Then whadda you bitchin about?

Spot on.

Elections have consequences, what is coming to pass is the consequences of electing a Marxist to highest office in the land.

Well friend like I said, I'm not yet ready to panic and talk of armed revolution, I think the electorate will rise up in NOV, so I'm not sure if that makes me your friend or foe, however as for myself, I could be your friend whether I agreed with your politics or not...sorry.