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There are some fantastic posts here. I've learned much already. Big thanks to JJ and Coyote. Let me buy you guys a cyber-beer... or something.

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energy is computed by:
V^2*W/450400 is how some places state it
V^2*W/450200 in others
V^2*W/450250 in still others
V=Velocity in FPS
W=Weight in grains


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I'm (finally) catching on. This is what I understand
There are so many variables that even a signifigant change in SD means nothing unless the other variables are identical, which they never have been in the history of hunting. SD only means something when solids are being used and the difference in SD is fairly large.

Thank you all so much.


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You are catching on. SD is a tool that, like any other, can be abused and misused. Bullet construction is often a better indicator of penetration potential, but penetration isn�t necessarily the best indicator of how effective a bullet will be, either.

I�ve put 55g FMJ�s clear through a coyote with very unsatisfactory results. But a 40g Nosler BT (with lower SD) yields devastating results, even though there is often no exit wound. Barnes X bullets are known for their penetration, but my one experience with them was disappointing when compared to other bullets I�ve used. (That said, I�ve loaded up hunting rounds using the 115g TSX for my .257 Roberts., just haven�t tried them on game yet.)

You also have to consider the shot angle. Like many hunters, I prefer an exit wound. But I also like the bullet to expend most of its energy inside the animal rather than on the terrain behind it. In other words, I feel there is such a thing as excessive penetration. Since I refuse to take a �Texas heart shot�, I don�t need five or six feet of penetration. Given a head-on shot, I would like the bullet to do most of its work I the heart-lung cavity rather than in the stomach and intestines.

So, a partial list of factors to consider are bullet construction, weight, caliber, impact velocity, Then we need to add in the type of game; shot placement and angle; and whether or not the animal is at rest, fully adrenalized, or somewhere in-between. Then we can begin to predict how a bullet will perform.

Fortunately, generally speaking and with other factors the same, relatively heavy bullets of larger diameter generally provide more reliable results � which simplifies the selection process somewhat. For example, I�ll prefer any .338 cartridge over any .25 for use on elk. Will a .25 do it? Yes, but when heavy bones are encountered, the .338 has a definite advantage.

There�s an old adage about �use enough gun�. If a person is worrying about SD, chances are the gun he is using is marginal.


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