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Very true. It does create a great situation for the bargain hunter though.

The only reason I can see for the Kifaru fleece panels is for states like Colorado that require so many ci's of blaze orange. Otherwise I'm with Big W-------dump the fleece. The G2 pack's largest improvement (for me) is the fact they now come in OD green.

I have a friend that is set up to "dip" items and camo them in the latest and greatest. Each item he dips, say a rifle stock, he has to document that and send a royalty to the appropriate camo company. I think a rifle stock is $15 for the major hitters.
I am guessing the cost on "Super Duper Sneakum Camo" is a significant markup over my "Coyote" or "Foliage" MR's. I think there are places and times when camo may help, sometimes maybe a great deal... but most here probably agree is has become much more of a fashion statement than a tool of the hunter. Hell, I like my blue/black Swanndri pullover. Happy hunting, Casey
PS I'd say MR carries their hunting pride Loud and Proud. I think the same could be said for Kifaru, to say that throwing camo on your product is more hunter friendly because it has camo on it... well it isn't very well thought out (didn't want to say stupid, shoulda went with Rick Bobby and said "With all do respect.")

Truer words were never spoken. Personally, I like Capilene for my base layer. Made by certified tree-huggers. But then again, I kind of like trees myself. They're necessary to hide behind when you draw your bow.

It's okay to hug trees as well, as long as you wear camo cargo pants. Admit it Smoke, you've done it. I've seen the pitch on your pants.

I personally don't like to wear camo because there are way too many butthole four wheeler abusing jerks that wear it everywhere. I don't want to be associated with their "type" On the other hand I like subdued colors that blend in over the court jester looking stuff that the sierra club types prefer. Camo OD or Coyote tents are better so people cant find your camp to rip stuff off as easy as they could if you used one of these renaissance fair tents in day-glow chartreuse. I also think it is more respectful of your fellow wilderness enthusiasts if you don't have some gaudy colored gear sprouting like a wart on the landscape.

Cork sniffer!

admit it cowboy, you have an axe to grind.

If you didn't want to point out one brand or another, why'd you mention any brands?

Kelty makes good gear, so does Kifaru. Excellent gear actually. If you'd rather buy from a company centered around hunting, look no further.

Otherwise, just STFU. It's obvious that you know zilch about backpacking. Prove me wrong, cowboy.

Contribute something, some useful information. I'm betting you have none.

ouch, who said I have an axe to grind, why do I care what someone else uses, I don't, I actually like the kelty pack that my buddy has, its a nice unit and is about the right size, I think its called the vrangler. kifaru I am sure makes a very heavy duty product no doubt you can see that in the pictures, but to me it looks like a giant duffle bag with shoulder straps.

I was simply pointing out more than a few brands are worried about what the tree huggers would think about them selling hunting packs. do you think no companies are worried about this?? that is my question to you and the point I was trying to make. if you want to worry about things said in the past so be it, I choose to move on. some of us have a bad day every once in a while, when you have had as much [bleep] break as I have had lately you would be pissed off too.

Your always trying to cover your tracks, but they have already been laid.

Bullshit bean. The last wine I drank came out of a box. I go to the woods to get away from man's ugly creation not to see hippies dressed like gay rodeo clowns or bubba clad in camo to ride on a fume spewing erosion causing noisy ATV leaving a trail of ding dong wrappers cigarette butts and beer cans in his wake.

My answer is no. Your point is not well taken.

I'm a tree hugger!

OK, thanks for explaining. So it's not the number of pockets, or the lack of camo. that gets your goat, it's the durability?

Personally, besides the load-carrying capacity and weight distribtion, that's why I like my Kifaru packs--they're very durable and "bomb-proof." One of the design features that makes them that way is the lack of unecessary extra pockets, flaps, and zippers---all of which are just more stuff that can fail or wear out.

If durability is your beef, you really owe it to yourself to check out these packs.

Ironically, it is lots easier to get away from the front country camo bozos than it is to get away from the REI crowd. The physical capabilities of the latter are quite a bit higher as a group. A half mile off trail (depending on terrain and cover) and you've usually escaped both groups.

Speaking of which, should I get a couple of the load cells for the Crew Cab?

One of each size, a few of each?

Wow, self-rightousness, xenophobia, arrogance, and myopia combined with a cunning sense of fashion all wrapped into one thread. Those tree-huggers can only wish!!

Struck a nerve?

Could you elaborate on who you think is exhibiting those qualities?

For example, if someone says they want to buy a product that's made in the USA, is that what you're calling xenophobia?

I guess I'm pretty disrespectful, what with an orange tent, variously colored packs, orange/yellow/black stock etc...oh, and my blaze orange.

The "xenophobia" crack was directed at the broad-brush "tree hugger" nonsense as if a recreational backpacker can't possibly hunt and vice versa (of course primarily the former :/). The original poster seems to have an appetite for categorizing people based on their choice of gear, or even its color! I thing that's myopic and rather sad.

As for products made in the USA, I have more than my fair share of Kifaru products and one more in the que...but that's not really relevant.