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Traditional threats to the US have largely been replaced by terrorist threats. Can a case be made for use of hit teams to remove leaders of countries that are involved in unconventional warfare?
Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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If you pose a threat to the American people, you should be taken out. No questions. IMO
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Ask Jack Kennedy. Wasn't he trying to do that to Castro?
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If you pose a threat to the American people, you should be taken out. No questions. IMO Taken to it's logical conclusion, that statement could put you in an American gulag.
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Robert Kennedy was shot by I think Sirhan Sirhan but his name escape, because the week before he was kiled he gave 100 Phantom fighter planes to the IDF.
The IDF had tortured and cuts the breasts of either his mother or his aunt during one of the middle eastern dust ups and the assasin did not like it.
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bristoe has a point.
i think we can't ever be the aggressor. however, if they start some crap or are part of a coup, they can be bumped off. maybe SHOULD be.
i think it would be counterproductive to knock off freely elected officials from democratic countries however. a bit hypocritical.
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Edited the original question to "Hypothetically speaking" to keep things above board.
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Become an enemy, beome a target
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It's extremely unwise to have a policy of assassinating troublesome heads of foreign states just because they are troublesome. That sets a rule that we don't want to live with, because it makes our head of state a legitimate target if we trouble other countries.
OTH, if we are at war with a country, any member of their military, including their head of state if he's a member, is a legitimate target.
It gets a lot more slippery if the enemy is stateless. But still, any member of any group that commits an attack on American soil or against American citizens is fair game in my opinion. It isn't a matter of revenge or getting even. It's a matter of preventing more attacks.
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Beats the crap out 100's of billion dollar wars.
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The US has a law that says the gov. will not assasinate anyone, anywhere. We can bomb them or invade them in an act of war or policing action, but we cant single out a person and send someone over to kill just him/her.
The UK doesnt have that law, or didnt have a decade ago, thus the statement 'Licensed to Kill' is/was actually true.
Israel doesnt have a similiar law and they will come get you where ever you are, if they want you bad enough.
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If you pose a threat to the American people, you should be taken out. No questions. IMO Nuke the bastids, shoot the survivors!
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It's the same reason I support the death penalty.
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No standing Federal law criminalizes the assassination of a foreign official outside the boundaries of the United States. In the absence of such a statute, only Executive Order 12333 prohibits the act of state-sponsored killing. This Order, which was drafted in the mid-1970s in the wake of revelations of government involvement in plots to kill several foreign leaders, has been maintained by every administration since President Ford. Part of the advantage of employing an executive order to prohibit assassinations is its inherent flexibility. Although each order has the effect of law, they are not immutable, and allow the President a variety of ways to circumvent them. The President has the authority to overrule the order, make an exception to it, or ask Congress to legislate its removal. Additionally, the President may designate any of these changes as classified if he considers them �intelligence activities . . . or intelligence sources and methods,� effectively preventing them from ever reaching public view. Interesting, from same source- In a more general sense, Article 4 of the U.N. Charter establishes a right to be free from aggression and the use of international armed force, and has been interpreted to provide that citizens of a nation have a right to be immune from international acts of violence by citizens or military forces of other nations........edited.......There are, however, two established scenarios in which the Article 2(4) protections against the use of force would be suspended. The first is a military action sanctioned by the U.N. Security Council under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter, and the second is an attack made by a victim state in self-defense.
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It isn't revenge, it's "providing for the common defense."
Probably not a good idea to have a stated policy either way. Keep them guessing.
Justifiable? Sure. Moral? Maybe.
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Of course they are justifiable. But then, in matters of foreign affairs I am a realist and concern myself less with right and wrong and more with consequences.
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The US has a law that says the gov. will not assasinate anyone, anywhere. We can bomb them or invade them in an act of war or policing action, but we cant single out a person and send someone over to kill just him/her. Yet Obama claims that he has the power to assassinate American citizens whenever and wherever he wants, with absolutely no due process whatever. LinkLinkLinkLinkLinkInteresting.
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