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I have two of the new mod 70 and I like them a lot (I just ordered a mcmillan stock for one of them).
I also really like the trigger, will its not a benchrest trigger its just about perfect for hunting.They break crisply at around 3 pounds and there is almost no overtravel. I also like McMillan the best, but what's wrong with the factory stock? Doesn't it have the aluminum beding block? I am also thinking about getting one. I just can't make up my mind as to which caliber to get, since I have all those bases covered. Kind of leaning toward the 7mm or 06 because I don't currently have either.
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The mcmillan I order was for a coyote outback 22-250.It was a shot show special from last year.It wear a varmint style laminated stock that I find a bit to bulky for my need.
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Can't replace the trigger with the old one. It's easy to modify the pull weight on the MOA. Either buy another spring or work on it yourself. My .270 would not go below 4 lbs,now at 3 1/4 which feels very light. No creep, no over travel.
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I like 2 lb triggers. Sometimes 2.5lbs. Depends on the trigger.
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I have two, a 308 and a 300WSM. I think they're really nice rifles and the best bang for the buck, especially since they have a "real" synthetic stock instead of tupperware. Also, the stock feels good to me, not clubby as others have stated. The triggers on both are very crisp and were very easy to adjust to slightly over a 3 lb pull (if I remember right about 3lb 2oz). I think they're a great choice if looking for a new stainless rifle!! The only other stainless factory rifle I'd consider would be a Sako 85 but then I'd also want to restock it and then you're really getting into a few bucks.
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I have looked at them quite a bit at work. If i was looking for a cheaper syn/stainless rifle i would go remington or ruger but for a real synthetic/stainless, the Extreme Weather is the real deal. Like wixtor said, its a real synthetic stock and i like the looks and feel of it. At first it feels a little "clubby" to me but i think i could get used to it. Would like to get one in 270 or 7mm-08 for another deer/maybe elk rifle.
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IMHO, the new M-70�s are brilliant! The people at the FN plant got this right!
I�ve had a number of the earlier USRAC models and I believe the new Model-70�s are the best yet. I just bought the Extreme Weather (.30/06). I was toying with the idea of getting a Super Grade but went with the EW in the end. I�m so happy with the gun I�ll also be looking at either a .270WSM or .300WSM to add to the collection. To be totally honest, I was considering going towards another Kimber (8400 Montana), however, after shooting a friend�s EW, I was sold on the Winchester.
As for earlier comments about the new MOA trigger being a POS, I think that is a load of BS. While my trigger was set at the factory at 16oz (4lb), a quick adjustment has it at a fraction just under 3lb which is perfect for me in the field. Given how crisp the break is and the lack of any over travel I find it�s a dream to use � gunsmith work on triggers or after-market triggers was a reality for my earlier Winchester�s but NOT for this new model, it�s that good. If you�re unsure, get into your local store and fire it a few times � only then will you fully appreciate what I�m talking about. I�ve also compared it to my newly acquired Browning X-Bolt which has the �Feather Trigger� system - I believe the MOA is better despite having a similar design principle.
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While the design of the old style model 70 classic trigger was a sound one, the execution was anything but. For starters the trigger parts were made out of cast/MIM'ed parts and the bearing surfaces were quit rough. The pull weights from the factory where terrible. And even after you had a smith work them over they still didnt feel as good as an aftermarket trigger. My model 70's wear Jewell triggers. As for the stock on the EW. I have the identical stock on a original 700 TI. The stock is better than tupperware, but it is clubby and thick through the grip. I wish Winchester would offer them with a McMillan and price them the same as a Montana.
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wiktor, what kind of groups are you getting with the .308?
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Hate to say it but I haven't had a chance to shoot either yet! Been waaay to busy.That said, I scoped the 308 with a VX3 1.75X6 and hope to get out to the range within the next week.
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I have a 308 AW and just got back from the range now I had a exceptional morning at the 200 but I fired a 6 shot group and had 4 at 1/2 to 3/4 and 2 probably me that were at a inch. So I would say they shoot pretty darn good when I am capable of that. Sierra Pro king 150 over 46 grains of Varget.
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IMHO, they're a bit pricey, but they're pretty well put together and I love how they shoulder. You're truly getting what you pay for with them, no doubt about it.
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Got a 270 on the way! Little concerned thou as I'm not sure the 270 can handle elk..
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Got a 270 on the way! Little concerned thou as I'm not sure the 270 can handle elk.. I'd just load 'er up with about 57 grs. of Rldr-22 and a 150 NorthFork or Partition. NF would be my 1st choice - they seem to be slightly more accurate and perform just as good (maybe better) as a Partition on game. Just my opinion tho. Good luck. Bear in Fairbanks
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While the design of the old style model 70 classic trigger was a sound one, the execution was anything but. For starters the trigger parts were made out of cast/MIM'ed parts and the bearing surfaces were quit rough. The pull weights from the factory where terrible. And even after you had a smith work them over they still didnt feel as good as an aftermarket trigger. My model 70's wear Jewell triggers. As for the stock on the EW. I have the identical stock on a original 700 TI. The stock is better than tupperware, but it is clubby and thick through the grip. I wish Winchester would offer them with a McMillan and price them the same as a Montana. I have to agree that the B&C stock is a huge improvement over the previous USRAC synthetic models. In terms of any suggestion that the B&C stock is clubby, I don't find this to be the case at all.
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The stock on my 700 TI is more than a half inch thicker through the wrist than a McMillan/Echols legend and over an inch thicker than a Rimrock I have. Plus the B&C stock is crudely shaped so it looks club like.
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The stock on my 700 TI is more than a half inch thicker through the wrist than a McMillan/Echols legend and over an inch thicker than a Rimrock I have. Plus the B&C stock is crudely shaped so it looks club like. Club? Again, I don�t see it. In fact, I think it is a very clever and functional design which is inherently tough. Its profiling and texturing particularly through the pistol grip and forend area allows for firm control of the firearm at all times and in different hunting environments. I aslo find that it absorbs recoil well. Again, just a great gun.
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The stock on my 700 TI is more than a half inch thicker through the wrist than a McMillan/Echols legend and over an inch thicker than a Rimrock I have. Plus the B&C stock is crudely shaped so it looks club like. I'm with Ben on this one. The Ti stock is like holding a cow's leg. Still a nice stock, just not for me. I handled my first EW last night and came away more than mildly impressed. The B/C stock on this one is pretty decent in terms of a slender design. Of course, the day I'd bring an EW home, I'd order a McMillan Edge, likely in a compact.
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anyone know what these stocks weigh - can I save much weight with another stock? if so which?
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for those in Canada I have the previous SS model 270 with the original trigger and McMillan Edge stock barrel turned to a featherwt. profile 24" for sale at $1,100
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