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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
.378Wby..... offda.


You know I wasn't sure and I'd had a chance to own several of them real cheap. But now that I own one I don't understand the big deal. My load is 300 Nosler at 2954 fps.


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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
.378Wby..... offda.


You know I wasn't sure and I'd had a chance to own several of them real cheap. But now that I own one I don't understand the big deal. My load is 300 Nosler at 2954 fps.


Wow.
And here I thought a guy with 17 Ackley in his name was going to say that a 22-250 was a hard kicker!
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Any 12 ga pump (or single-shot) shotgun with 3.5" chambers and using turkey loads... YOW..

And last - my Ruger Alaskan in .454C.. If you're still sleepy after one or two rounds with that - you've been heavily drugged..

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378 wby, quickest, hardest ever in a 9.5 lb gun........but then again, I've never shot a 460 wby.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
378 wby, quickest, hardest ever in a 9.5 lb gun........but then again, I've never shot a 460 wby.

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FWIW, I have read in a few different places that the 378's felt recoil is worse than that of a 460Wby.
Now, I don't know if that is true,as I have never fired the 460 but I found it to be noteworthy all the same.


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A friend of mine has one of those side by side coach guns. You know the style: short barrels, light weight, narrow comb and hard buttplate. A couple of turkey magnum type shells was plenty for me.

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Weatherby Euromark .378 magnum. Weatherby stuffed that cartridge into a standard sporter-weight barrel and stock. That baby was whiplash and detached retinas when you touched it off and had a muzzleblast that would curdle milk.

I have to give Weatherby credit though. They claim 1.5" groups with their rifle and ammo and that rifle would shoot 1.375" groups at 100 yards. Three shots was about all I could stand.

The factory ammo also chronographed within 3 fps. of what the Weatherby catalog claimed.


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.460 Wby. I have never fired the .378, so I can compare the two, but the .460 gets your attention.

Another one that I didn't like was a Whitworth Express that weighed about 7 pounds in .458 Win.

Neither of the above were fun to shoot.

Of all the guns I have fired that hurt worse than they should have, considering their muzzle energy and type of loads was a 16 gauge Savage Autoloader. It was made on the design of a hump backed Browning, and I think it was something called a long recoiling action.

It was much worse than any shotgun I have ever fired, and I have fired a lot of 3 inch 12 gauge in my OU.

Speaking of slugs, and the comments on the forum about how they hurt. My first deer gun was a 16 guage 6 pound Ithica pump. I used slugs, and as well as I remember, it wasn't all that bad.

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For we they've been relatively "mild" calibers. Both had recoil pads with the consistency of hockey pucks and weighed under 8lbs.

.300 Weatherby with 220 gr. (factory)
.338 Winchester with 250 gr. (reload)

Both shot off the bench and oddly within a couple of weeks from each other. One was a friend's, the other an acquaintance at the range.

I've shot 9lb 375's with 270 gr boolits that were far easier to shoot than those two.

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This is easy for me. A 600 NE that doubled.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
A couple come to mind.

A Brit Enfield #5 Jungle Carbine

my 458 Winchester Model 70

a Ruger #1 in 416 Remington

my Uncle's 10 ga Parker DBL


I will back up your claim to the No. 5 Enfield Jungle Carbine. It's not so much the recoil as the muzzle flip. Scoped one and the thing jumped up and drove the wire of my Ray Ban glasses deep into the bridge of my nose. Being younger and dumber in those days, I shot again just to see if it was a fluke. nope. Still got the scar.

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#3 - No. 5 Enfield

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.460 Weatherby. They muzzle blast alone from the brake will make your head ring. Roy can have that POS.


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any shotgun sucks


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Ithica 37 Deerslayer, 12ga, 2 3/4", 1 1/4" Fed mag slugs......tears to the eyes.

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Colonel Bob Brown, of Soldier of Fortune Magazine, let me shoot his .470 Nitro Express double one time. It definitely got my attention. He put two cartridges in it but one was enough for me.


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Originally Posted by UMT
This is easy for me. A 600 NE that doubled.

Seems like I just read about that somewhere.

* I was wrong . It was an article by Boddington in Rifleshooter that I just read. He had a 600 double on him too.

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In regards to "normal rifles" rather than the monster magnums...

Did find out that a bad fitting stock can tear a guy up. A friend had a 1980's Savage 110 in 30-06 that he complained about, and I pooh-poohed him. How bad can a 30-06 be? Shot a bunch of them, no big deal.

Took it to the range with some factory ammo wearing a t-shirt, and that sucker had my shoulder bruised and bleeding from scraped skin in 3 shots. Don't know what it was about that stock, but I had to apologize and agree with him. It was one phugged up gun.

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'twas a lovely little spanish made sxs 12 ga . It turned REALLY UGLY when I pulled the trigger on a shell loaded with a Red Dot bushingfull of Unique combined with a Unique bushingfull of Unique under a tight fitting cardboard wad column and 1 1/4 oz of shot .

The righthand chamber was then ten-thousandths oversize and I was [ the next day ] black from my right shoulder all the way to my belly-button .

That was forty-five years ago and may explain why I tolerate recoil pretty good . If it could kill , I'd be dead .grin


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.378 Whtby. Said a he** of a lot more than ouch.


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Had a M98 Mauser in 8mm. and was shooting some milsurp 196gr European stuff through it. The first round, I was a wee bit too close to the scope and got a 40mm cookie cutter around the right eye. OUCH!

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Originally Posted by Steve
The biggest kicker I got is a Ruger RSM in 458 Lott. I'm good for about 20 rounds max before I start getting punchy and have to put it away.

My 475 NE double is a bit short for me and when I use the rear trigger I tend to get a mouthful of the back of my thumb. But it's not that bad a kicker. Just need to get a lace on butt extender.


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