Just set up a new set of Carbon Express Terminators with the 5 grain per inch Three Rivers weight tubes for real heavy weight shafts. Four fletched with Trueflight 5" parabolics. They shoot like darts from my Allegheny Mountain Recurve, 60# @ 27" with almost no sound. Was thinking of the new Woodsman Elite 200gr screw ins. Anyone try the new Elites in any size?