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Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy BobinNH #4393862 09/08/10
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816 T toltecgriz Campfire Ranger
toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	Originally Posted by BobinNH Jayco, you mean the BBC's? They have been around since at least the early 70's.....pretty sure.....I've been using them since the early 80's IIRC. 1968 is the earliest I am aware of for Steigers' Bitterroots. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

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Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy toltecgriz #4393947 09/08/10
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rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	It is marked 458 on the lug and I don't think it's ever been out of the stock!!No finsh and very dry on the inside now.. Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy toltecgriz #4394004 09/08/10
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Toltec: OU76 on here found a brochure,stating they started in 1964...been around longer than I thought rifle: I like the 338! Last edited by BobinNH; 09/08/10. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy BobinNH #4394087 09/08/10
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rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	gots a lot of character don't it!! Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy BobinNH #4394089 09/08/10
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 409 O ou76 Campfire Member
ou76 Campfire Member O Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 409	That 338 is a character rifle!! I can see it was used for what it was designed for...and 52 elk to boot!! Leaving now for Wyoming with my 1952 Model 70 30-06 for Shiras Moose...season starts on the 10th...packing in tomorrow..till next time... "To pick a rifle and bullet for use on game by muzzle energy alone is, at best, foolish...and can be dangerous to your own health..." Bill Steigers, April 23, 1980

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Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy ou76 #4394095 09/08/10
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rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	Good luck...wish I was there! I would haul the firewood! Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy rifle #4394163 09/08/10
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ou76 Campfire Member O Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 409	It took 12 years to draw this once in a lifetime Wyoming Shiras tag...I drew a Utah once in a lifetime Shiras tag back in 2002 but it was one of those hunts...everything that could and did went wrong.....I finally got a small bull on the last day last 1/2 hour of legal shooting light... "To pick a rifle and bullet for use on game by muzzle energy alone is, at best, foolish...and can be dangerous to your own health..." Bill Steigers, April 23, 1980

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy ou76 #4394193 09/08/10
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA A atkinsonhunting Campfire Tracker
atkinsonhunting Campfire Tracker A Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,954 Filer, Idaho, USA	I really like the pre war guns but you have to change out the safety to a pre 64 type of safety..Some outfit used to make those and I can't recall the name, but they worked real well..Also at one time early on Win. would adapt their Mod.54, at no cost, to a pre 64 and those were excellent guns. I have owned a couple of those guns. My uncle mod 54 carbine was returned to Win for that operation, came back with a 70 bolt handle, and M-70 safety. The best of the Mod. 70 pre 64s was 1952 as I recall. Ray Atkinson www.atkinsonhunting.com [email protected] 208-326-4120

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy atkinsonhunting #4394481 09/08/10
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by atkinsonhunting I really like the pre war guns but you have to change out the safety to a pre 64 type of safety..Some outfit used to make those and I can't recall the name, but they worked real well. Ray would that be "Tilden"? Rifle:Yes that 338 is definately a "character" rifle The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy ou76 #4394859 09/08/10
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model70man Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,469	Rule learned from Jim Scott of Leon, Iowa. Never gave Jim credit in his book.

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Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy model70man #4395184 09/08/10
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	How many years did John Nosler hunt without a bonded bullet untill he ran into that Bubba Moose? The fact is in Idaho up until something like 1976 a guy could shoot anything,Bull or Cow(Elk) anywhere because of the numbers and broadsides were a given most of the time.. That being said and on topic,my(now) Pre '64 Winchester shot great groups right out of the box as I was there with every range session and hunt.... The net can be a strange damn place sometimes with all the scribbling over un important stuff when number one is shot placement and number two is a quality bullet////not at range conditions but in the field under the stress some have..... I can't remember one year I was not in on atleast ten Elk kills from either helping pack them out to just being a dumbo logger for 40+ years. My best buddy in McCall Idaho shoots his elk every year with a Marlin 30-30 and factory ammo. I am Nosler through and through and will never change.It brings home the bacon...My(my dads) pre '64 in .270 Win has scored well over 40 Elk with a cheap Weaver 4X scope and 130 grain bullets.... Horse flies to Elephants,the 130 Nosler get's 'er done in a .270 Win. Jayco

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy logcutter #4395278 09/08/10
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444Matt Campfire Outfitter 4 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,731 Alabama	Originally Posted by logcutter I am Nosler through and through and will never change.It brings home the bacon...My(my dads) pre '64 in .270 Win has scored well over 40 Elk with a cheap Weaver 4X scope and 130 grain bullets.... Jayco Hard for me to think of a classier bolt action setup Ron. Good on ya! Every pre 64 I've seen shot at the range gave aceptable to above average accuracy. 1.5MOA to under MOA Last edited by 444Matt; 09/08/10. Reason: "Good" not "Goon"

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy 444Matt #4395383 09/08/10
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	It's that good, atleast mine is..I will put it(My Pre '64 in 270 Win) up against my Weatherby Sub Moa in 30-06 any day with me pulling the trigger under my circumstances,and I have... Jayco

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy logcutter #4395552 09/08/10
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southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,825 Texas	Super Grade! very nice!

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy logcutter #4395906 09/08/10
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Manic_Hunter Campfire Member Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 379 Four Corners	Here is one for sale in Arizona right now. Looks to be all original 1952 30/06. http://phoenix.backpage.com/SportsEquipForSale/750-winchester-pre64-3006/11271177 I am trying to contact the seller as of today. Last edited by Manic_Hunter; 09/08/10. Here, hold my beer and watch this!

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy logcutter #4395936 09/08/10
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by logcutter That being said and on topic,my(now) Pre '64 Winchester shot great groups right out of the box as I was there with every range session and hunt.... The net can be a strange damn place sometimes with all the scribbling over un important stuff when number one is shot placement and number two is a quality bullet////not at range conditions but in the field under the stress some have..... I can't remember one year I was not in on atleast ten Elk kills from either helping pack them out to just being a dumbo logger for 40+ years. I am Nosler through and through and will never change.It brings home the bacon...My(my dads) pre '64 in .270 Win has scored well over 40 Elk with a cheap Weaver 4X scope and 130 grain bullets.... Horse flies to Elephants,the 130 Nosler get's 'er done in a .270 Win. Jayco Hurrah Jayco! Gawd I just luv this stuff....... I christened an unfired(near as I can tell) pre 64 M70 270FW this week in the wood stock;slapped a 4x28 Leup on it,tightened the guard screws,and got MOA at 300 yards with 60.5-H4831,130 Partitions...I have owned it a couple of years and never shot it......funny thing is I zeroed in 5 shots, the last landing 3" high, fired NO groups at 100 yards;just went to 300 yards with it.....this in the wood stock, no trigger job,no nuthin...(the club president,a National Match Shooter, said the rifle is brand new!) I'm taking it to Wyoming this fall....I know as much about it as I need to.....it's a pre 64 M70......270Win.............FW............ The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy BobinNH #4396027 09/08/10
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Quote .I know as much about it as I need to.....it's a pre 64 M70......270Win.............FW.. As Jerimiah Johnson said.. "That is all you need to no" Jayco

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy model70man #4396700 09/08/10
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toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	Originally Posted by model70man Rule learned from Jim Scott of Leon, Iowa. Never gave Jim credit in his book. Jim Scott is (or was, don't know how he's doing) a really good guy. I bought some M70's from him and he was always fair. In fact he was so fair he wanted to buy a couple of them back. And he never forgot what I had. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy toltecgriz #4396761 09/09/10
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model70man Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,469	Remember when Jim was selling Super Grades for $450.00? Those were the days. Unfortunately I made $97.00 a month from Uncle Sam.

Re: pre 64' model 70 accuracy model70man #4396768 09/09/10
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rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	I've shown this before,but ...I can't help it .270FW Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

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