24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,055
C
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,055
Subject line says it all: Thoughts on today's bullets, especially lead free for a retro 1 in 14 twist?

Searching all I could find was a mention that the Barnes 55 grain TSX worked well in a .223 Sako of unknown but likely 1/12 twist. Similarly from earliest days the best word on a slow twist .244 has been try it YMMV and I suppose that's true of a high speed 1/14 twist in a good barrel and action - at least without getting into the silly with some of the long range VLD bullets in .224.

I'm recreating one that got away with elements of what I really wanted at the time so I have a nice 26" very heavy barrel Swift with a fixed 16X Leupold from 1977 and a 1/14 twist. With classic cup and core bullets I know I'll have the performance I expect but what about a lead free future?

GB1

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256
Likes: 38
M
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256
Likes: 38
I have been trying to get the 53-grain TSX to shoot consistently in a 1-14 twist Swift for a few weeks now, and eventually gave up. I pushed it as hard as I dared, around 3950 fps, and while it would shoot pretty well on some days, a day or two later it wouldn't.

Now, my Swuft only has a 24" barrel and maybe another two inches of potential velocity would help.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,978
J
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
J
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,978
Barnes shows both 50 and 45 grain TSX .224" bullets on their website.

I think that either of those might work.

I have never heard of anyone getting the stellar acccuracy from the 53g or heavier slugs in a 1-14" twist. Sometimes it is not even possible with a 1-12' in a smaller case like the .223...

Last edited by jim62; 08/16/10.

To all gunmaker critics-
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256
Likes: 38
M
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256
Likes: 38
Yeah, it says right on the 53-grain's box that a 1-12" twist is requires. But I had a box on hand, and have had good luck getting some bullets to shoot in marginal twists, so decided to give it a try.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 617
Q
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Q
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 617
In cases like this my reasoning has always been, "try it" better to know for sure than to wonder what might have been. Especially when you have a cartridge that will push them to very high velocity.

IC B2


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24



511 members (10gaugemag, 270cowboy, 21, 2500HD, 1badf350, 1beaver_shooter, 60 invisible), 2,779 guests, and 1,227 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,815
Posts18,536,745
Members74,041
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.123s Queries: 24 (0.012s) Memory: 0.8117 MB (Peak: 0.8471 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-25 16:47:21 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS