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Happy Sunday everyone,
I have wanted a Cooper model 52(repeater) for quite some time now. I understand they aren't the lightest characters around, but fit and finish is top notch and I have craved one since the other coopers I have shot.
My questions is, what caliber should I look at getting this in?
My shots are no farther then 400 yards(my limit), and animals hunted are, Mostly deer, black bears, and moose.
I am looking at either the jackson hunter or the excaliber(synthetic).
The Calibers I am considering are-- 6.5x284, .280 AI, .30-06 and .338-06.
Any suggestions feel free to let me hear them!
Thank you,
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Since you added Moose, a 30-06 isn't sexy but will do anything in the USA. And you can buy ammo, if need be, anywhere.
The others are fine cartridges but are harder to find, might affect resale and won't do a thing, as a hunting rifle, that an 06' will not.
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I agree on the 30-06.
In fact, I have a Jackson Hunter in 30-06 and an Excalibur in 25-06. My suggestion, if you haven't done so already, is to spend some time handeling each rifle. For me, the Jackson holds better for off hand shooting, while the Excalibur seems better from the bench. They are fine rifles, and I think you'll be pleased with either version.
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Since you added Moose, a 30-06 isn't sexy but will do anything in the USA. And you can buy ammo, if need be, anywhere.
The others are fine cartridges but are harder to find, might affect resale and won't do a thing, as a hunting rifle, that an 06' will not. Yep
Whatever a 7x57 can do a 270 can do better.
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As somebody once pointed out, "The .30-06 is never a mistake."
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As the owner of an Excalibur......280
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Can't wait for this to come out in .243 AI and I'm all over it. For your question there are no wrong answers from your choices but the .280 is the neat one.
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It will be a long wait, Pugs.  I doubt Cooper will come out with the long action m52 rifle in a .243 AI. The short action Cooper m54 perhaps.
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Fair enough, Let's just say a repeater in .243 AI to keep my M22 in .308 and my .22 Classic company shall we? 
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I have always found that knowing the currect model designations helps when purchasing a rifle..
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I have always found that knowing the currect model designations helps when purchasing a rifle.. Well, you can tell how close I am to purchasing one. This years pig and Axis hunts come first but if the
Model 54 comes in .243 AI next year I'll have one. Better? 
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Pugs, I just wanted to make sure you did not drive the salesmen at Hendershots (or wherever you buy Coopers) insane asking for something they don't even make.. I handled a few of the m54 short action rifles at SHOT this year. It would be a sweet little rig in a .243 AI, or any caliber, for that matter.
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To all gunmaker critics-
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Yep, Hendershots is my local pusher. I have to limit the times I walk in that place!
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+1 for Hendershots. Have never been there but have bought several rifles from Lance over the net and all have been very positive experiences...
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I can't make my mind up if I want a cooper or a accumark weatherby. My shop has a .30-378 that's gorgeous!
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Thinking about a Model 52 in .30-06 or .270 myself.
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I have the first 257 R M 54 that they built. It is 1 sweet rifle. French Walnut, Bush. 4200 3x9 8# on the nose.
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I have a Model 52 30-06 acquired it less than a year ago and have not had the pleasure of using it on a hunt yet. Planning on taking it on my Elk hunt this coming fall. Been on many hunts over my life time using hand me down guns from a WWII 30-06 to a Remington 270, but this is different strangely excited for it like a first date with girl that is way out of my league!!! Stainless barrel and composit stock.
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Fair enough, Let's just say a repeater in .243 AI to keep my M22 in .308 and my .22 Classic company shall we? If they would offer an 8 twist I would likely get one as well. My 22LR and 17HMR would like to have it in the safe beside them. But not with a 10 twist.
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I've been thinking about a model 52, for a while now. Won't be to long before I pull the trigger.
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