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Please clarify your position Steve....

If after all rule of law has been exausted (a very broad scope of cumulative circumstances I know), and it ultimately comes to armed conflict to restore the US Constitution to it's full intended meaning of The People, for The People, by The People; then you will forego the intended purpose of the Second Amendment and be unwilling to participate....correct?

WW....it is shocking how many people can't tell the difference between losing an election and being subject to the policies of a side you don't like and a sufficient cause to rip the republic apart, destroying civil society and the economy probably for generations.

civil wars aren't neat tidy little things you can limit....look at Spain, look at Lebanon, look at the Congo...hell, look at the US during the unpleasantness.


when you can't publish a newspaper or a blog, or speak in public against the regime, or run for office, or file a suit against a government policy, or get on talk radio and call the president a lying Muslim scumbag, or when an election is postponed......then you come back and we'll talk about armed rebellion. till that happens, it's childish nonsense that distracts from what we should be about.

Common sense isn't class specific. This is mostly a prime example of when frustrations and emotion override the logic and reason 90% of the 24 gang possesses. Come middle November 2011, there will be a sense of calm which will begin creeping back in.

Folks need to focus their vigorous energies to the hills and roads of their own voting districts rather than those leading to the Capitol!! Savor the moment of what November 4th could be bringing us. Plus, who revolts on opening day, anyways??

What's childish Steve, is not admitting things could easily turn that direction if allowed to continue as they have......with a government that ignores what The People want/need with every stroke of thier legislative pen.

I'll assume you won't be willing to participate......

Just curious though....say a man such as yourself was caught up in something that the rule of law (re,.gov) couldn't/wouldn't help, or fix, in the heat of the moment.

Say, oh, something like the aftermath of a devastating hurricane, just for a curious example.....wondering, what would Steve_NO be willing to do.

Like Steve, you assume that changing the politicians in control will make any difference.

You may be right. Damn, I hope so.

I just don't believe it.

It ain't about political party, either.

You're assuming that anyone running is someone that is wanted, or that many are finding that it makes any difference any more which party gets in.

I didn't posit any such assumption, but you certainly are jumping to those conclusions that make your position easier to defend.

so you're saying you can't even find anybody to run who supports your ideas?

so what's the next step? impose your will on the country by force of arms? if you don't even have enough support to get someone to run who supports your views, how you figure to win a civil war, assuming what was left at the end would be worth running anyway.

seems to me your only option is electoral outreach, and trying to convince voters to see it your way

What's childish Steve, is not admitting things could easily turn that direction if allowed to continue as they have......with a government that ignores what The People want/need with every stroke of thier legislative pen.

I'll assume you won't be willing to participate......

Just curious though....say a man such as yourself was caught up in something that the rule of law (re,.gov) couldn't/wouldn't help, or fix, in the heat of the moment.

Say, oh, something like the aftermath of a devastating hurricane, just for a curious example.....wondering, what would Steve_NO be willing to do.