whats interesting is that three other members came up with three different measurements as well on this same thread according to my pics.
Yeah, by trying to eye it up, or run comparisons through Photoshop.
You, on the other hand, had the rifle laying in front of you, with tape measure in hand. BIG difference.
First you said that it was 12.25", then claimed 13.5", then said you didn't know how to measure, then finally put it at under 13" (like most everybody was guessing) when actually backed in to the corner.
How anybody could say both 12.25" and 13.5" on the same rifle, no matter HOW you measured it (both apparently wrong by the way), is beyond me.