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This is kinda a stupid question,but what is the advantage of a hinged floor plate magazine like in the bdl over a blind one in the adl? Why are the hinged floor plate models more expensive?Is it the cheapo stock that makes the adl so cheap?

Dixie with a hinged floorplate you can empty your magazine without cycling the rounds through the action. Also it is a lot easier to get any crud out from under the action as you don't have to take it out of the stock. Just blow it out with a can of compressed air.

As to difference in price I suppose making two pieces is more expensive than one? As to the price difference I guess Remington does what they do because they can. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


BCR

FWIW:

In the '70s, the ADL was a birch stocked economy model and the BDL was Fancy walnut with a white line spacer, etc. Over time, stainless steel, plastic stocks and other changes have blurred the line between "economy" and "Deluxe."

BMT

BanjoDixie,

I appear to be in a definite minority, but I LIKE the blind box magizine (a'la ADL). Catching a handful of shells while unloading with the hinged floorplates is no more convenient to me than "popping" each shell onto the follower/feed rails and putting them into my cartridge carrier (And no, I don't fully chamber each round--I prefer the old style safety bolt lock-up). Also, the blind box design is simpler--less to go wrong (Although a rare occurence, hinged floorplates have been known to pop open under recoil--mostly with heavy recoiling cartridges). Most important to me, the blind box is lighter. I live in Southwestern Colorado--the highest region in North America. I backpack hunt, horse hunt, etc, and lightweight equipment is one of my priorities. One other "advantage" is blind box mags keep the stock stiffer--although that may be splitting hairs on a sporter rifle.

If I remember correctly, the wood stocked ADL sold for about $80 more than the synthetic. As noted in other posts, the BDL came with a walnut stock, and also a better polish job prior to bluing (more labor). The BDL will generally have a little more attention paid to the metal-to-stock fit and things like that. Until sometime in the early 80's (I think) the BDL came with a decent leather sling!

Personally, I think the Rem synthetic stock ain't bad when compared the the other factory rifle stocks, it's not as "squishy". I always install pillars which eliminate this in the action area--something I think all stocks need--regardless if they're aftermarket--or of the price. The Rem forearm flex isn't as bad as other factory synthetics, but if it bothers a guy, there is a cheap and easy fix (but it adds weight). As far as stocks go,I own a MPI, two McMillians, and a H-S Precision and although good stocks, I really think they are kind've over priced for what I'm getting (this won't endear me to some).

This year, Remington has dropped the 40+ year old ADL in favor of the new SPS--replete with hinged floorplate (more weight), 24in barrels (more weight), and faux rubber over-molded grips instead of checkering (it didn't look as bad as I had feared:)). They also offer the SPS in stainless. I just looked at the SPS's at Sportman's Warehouse, the price was ~450$ for the blued version vs $390 for the old ADL. I think the stainless version was $80 more. I'm kinda sorry to see the ADL go. A year and a half ago, I paid $340 for a new ADL synthetic on sale (I don't think that's a bad price). This past weekend, I paid $275 for a 700 ADL synthetic at a pawnshop. I had been watching it for almost two months. It came with the box, manual, and the receipt from a chain discount sporting goods store. The guy bought it mid September 2004, pawned it in early November. It is obvious its never had a scope on it. It looks brand new, and I sincerly doubt it has had more than a box or two of ammo through it. Geez, just what I need--another rifle, but I couldn't pass up the price--I'll figger something to do with it (and please, no one tell my wife!).

Even though the "shot peened" matte finish on the ADL's are a little rough, the discounted price on these Rems have been a bargain, even when figuring an extra $40-$65 to replace the ludicrious J-lock thingie firing pin assembly (REMINGTON HAS DROPPED THE J-LOCK FOR 2005--THANK GAWD) and replacing the plastic triggerguard with steel/aluminum ($20-$30).

Casey

I have always liked the early 700ADL rifles, alot of them
had pretty nice wood. I saw an ADL in .222 Remington
last year for 350 that had a really nice stock.

so the wart is gone, i heard it wasnt gona leave us just yet.

I just deeded my 70's vingtage ADL to the son-in-law. That rifle will shoot circles around many of my other rifles and in spite of the high luster finish on the pretty wood stock I rate it high on my list of accurate rifles.

I like the ADL.Nuttin' purty about them but an awful lot of them shot like crazy.Just a plain old nuts 'n' bolts hunting gun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Alpine:
Your argumentation is indisputable. Every time Remington does something right, the wanna mess it up.
Smitty of the North

You don't have to cycle rounds through and ADL to remove them. Just push the bolt forward enough to let the magazine release the round, then pull the bolt back and take the loose round out.

While I'm bummed that the ADL is going away, there are so many used ones floating around out there that I'm sure we'll have plenty to pick through for years to come.

ADL or BDL I like'em both and have no complaints with either. I do much prefer the early ones, they just seem to have better finish on wood and metal, a quality that started to go down in the 70's I think. But they can generally be bought cheap and brought up to snuff for what it would cost for a new rifle. I recently bought a new CDL which was the first new rifle purchase in about ten years and sticker price on it was scary. But I guess that times are changing, although I will go back to used guns for awhile again now. I just felt the CDL met alot of my tastes in how a rifle should look and feel and thought it would be good to support Remington when they do something I like.
Good Luck and good hunting, Rob