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Have you guys seen this yet? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39762676/ns/business-cnbc_tv/CNBC reporting on deaths linked to safety problems with Remington 700 rifles. Should be something interesting to discuss. For me they aren't my favorite rifle, I've seen a lot of them with Bubba'd up triggers and other issues. On the other hand they are easy to make into a very accurate rifle and with the millions of them sold they are bound to be issues with some of them.................I'm going to go and swap scopes tonight on a couple of mine ..........................DJ
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It's CNBC.......nuff said
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Already covered. Thread here.
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When I saw msnbc I couldn't even click on it!!!!
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The Remington 700, in the dress of an M24 or M40, has been responsible for thousands of human fatalities. Dumbass Jarheads and Grunts can't even screw up a simple trigger.
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The Marine Corps provided video of malfunctions with their M40s for this program.
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Yes them remington have more problems then you can shake a stick .Wait till the barrel came flyiny off them 710s and the shoot guns its not over yet I think the Icone should have taking care of the guns when the problem happend there mistake live with it
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The CEO of Remington stepped down just about 1 month ago! I wonder why?. He was aware of the ongoing investigation, the lawsuits, the potential recall...it was his job to know. He left. He hasn't been replaced...maybe it's hard to find a captain of a sinking ship!?And it seems that they are cost cutting; typical when a large corporation is bought out...it sems like they could have solved this problem for 5 cents per gun way back!!!
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5 cents of common sense goes a long way... milking the cow dry then beefing it seems to be a better way to manage a business these days....
i wonder why gm is not linked to multiple deaths involving DUI cases. seems there might be a great story there.. what??!! no device to keep a raging drunk from driving the wrong way up the interstate and killing a family of 5!!!! eeegggaaddsss.... pin heads....
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This news is over 20 years old. You guys took the bait though.
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You mean people knew remington 700's were junk for 20 years but they still keep buying them ?
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It's an old story and frankly one that might very well have been fixed with the new design trigger. *NBC doesn't have enough journalistic integrity to mention that they have finally changed the original Walker trigger and mention whether or not any of the problems have occurred with the new trigger or not.
The original trigger was very easy to adjust into an unsafe condition. There are still millions of older 700's out there and untold thousands of them have Bubba'd up unsafe triggers.........................DJ
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I had a rifle brought in last year which had fired when the safety was released. It had the new trigger. It was, apparently, also easy to adjust into an unsafe condition since the owner had obviously done so. The elimination of the trigger connector is NOT a cure-all just as it's existence was usually NOT the root cause of the problem. GD
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The original trigger was very easy to adjust into an unsafe condition. There are still millions of older 700's out there and untold thousands of them have Bubba'd up unsafe triggers.........................DJ
Exactly my experience, also. When guys have their action out of the stock and see those screws on the trigger they can't resist messing with them. Then they tell their buddies that they did their own trigger job. Look out! Ask these guys what they consider the minimum safe sear engagement is on a 700 trigger, and watch the blank look on their faces.
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1- all triggers can be adjusted to unsafe conditions, not just Rems, and once the factory setting is changed, it no longer is the factory's responsibility.
2- everyone who has ever been paid to do a trigger also started with their first one, usually as a "bubba". further, every instruction I have ever seen about adjusting comes with the tests to do to make sure the trigger is safe.
3- Question for nifty-two-fifty, want to tell me what the minimum safe sear engagement is on a 700?
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A friend of mine had his 700 go off when he released the safety a few years ago. I don't know how old the rifle was , but I don't think it was over 10 years or so. He got rid of it.
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It's an old story and frankly one that might very well have been fixed with the new design trigger. *NBC doesn't have enough journalistic integrity to mention that they have finally changed the original Walker trigger and mention whether or not any of the problems have occurred with the new trigger or not.
The original trigger was very easy to adjust into an unsafe condition. There are still millions of older 700's out there and untold thousands of them have Bubba'd up unsafe triggers.........................DJ The CNBC story DID state that the trigger was changed, although the US Army and USMC are still experiencing the same problems in their sniper rifles.
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