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The Burris was the answer to a question I asked. Good Lord, what did the Martini Cadet do to deserve THAT?!? This,..
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That is spectacular accuracy from that old Martini!
The Chosin Few November to December 1950, Korea. I'm not one of the Chosin Few but no more remarkable group of Americans ever existed.
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"When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch, Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old bitch; She's human as you are -- you treat her as sich, An' she'll fight for the young British soldier. Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . ."
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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"Jesus H. Christ you are one DUMB SOB. I guarantee the scout scope ain't on the rifle. I guarantee there ain't a single scope in the house. I guarantee you are proof that even a stupid sperm can find an egg." _________________________
OK, NUMBNUTZ, re-read that paragraph and then take the diick outa yer mouth...
I dont have to spell right to get the bulge on a tub like you... ........You can`t spell "diick" either? Only one "i"..........Oh! And you still left the "z" in nuts too! Tub? Yep! I`m a tubby all-right. 6-7% body fat. And after nearly 40 years of instructing, I still teach a few "arts" here and there to law enforcement personnel amongst doing other things. Amazing how doing that keeps the tubby-ness off the bod. Tub uh? Should I spell tub with two bees? You tell me! Yes! I did read his quote. However, it`s my choice to take his guarantees with any grain of salt.
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That is superb accuracy from a Cadet!
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This is why it's so much fun. In front, a CZ 452,....40 grain bullet at 1250 fps. The smaller, lighter, more accurate Cadet behind it, a 125 grain bullet at 1635 fps.
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Bristoe, thats a damn nice shootin ol rig!
BigQueef, yer a twat and a half.. an ignorant one at that..
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Bristoe, thats a damn nice shootin ol rig!
BigQueef, yer a twat and a half.. an ignorant one at that.. ..........Well Tomahawk. May I remind you about your 1st post to me? Calling me as you stated,,,"numbnuts?" It is quite clear that you started this fiasco, as did Big Stick and Steelhead who did the same. Nothing or any insulting of any kind were "first" initiated in any way be me on this thread. If you had a beef with me challenging Steelhead, you could have eliminated the name calling and been far more mature in the process. Not your style. But it is clear that between you, Big Stick, and Steelhead, you three simply prefer im-mature insulting as your way of trying to get your point across. If that makes you feel real good about yourselves, then go for it. You can keep right on making complete and totally im-mature asses out of yourselves.....
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... Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? ... 1. Leupold 3.5-10x40 w/ standard duplex & at least an elevation turret 2. Leupold fixed 6x w/ same as above that's just a start ... In my experience, ANY scope with a turret is a compromise. Sure, they make for easy adjustment, but being drug out of and crammed into a saddle scabbard, or used as a support while climbing a mountain, those damned things are just begging to be knocked off. Plus the added weight of big scopes like that make trapsing around a 10,000 ft. even more difficult. Of course if they're just sitting in the gun safe while the owner pecks away at a keyboard, they're perfect. But, if you like them and they work for you, then more power to you. 35WN
"Only accurate rifles are interesting."- Col. Townsend Whelen "I always tell the truth....that way, I don't have to remember anything."- George Burns NRA Life Member Certified NRA Reloading Instructor Certified Texas Hunter Education Instructor
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Granted Texas hunting is as tough as it gets, but scout scopes are still, and will always be, a compromise.
The line that if Burris were junk they'd be out of business don't wash well either. Course they likely work the vast amounts of folks sitting on their ass in a box blind hunting 3 days a year. Just cuzz more folks voted for Obama than didn't don't make it a smart. Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? The original question asked the opinion of the Burris Scout scope. Not YOUR opinion of Scout scopes in general. After my last post, it occurred to me that both mine and my fathers elk rifles ALL mount Burris scopes and over the last several years these rigs have been many, many miles in saddle scabbards and carried up and down the mountains of New Mexico and never once lost a zero. Oh wait...I sit on my ass in a box blind don't I..... But owing to your 43000+ posts, I'd have to say you spend most of YOUR time sitting on YOUR ass in front of a computer. How many Burris scopes have you owned? 35W Yep it's about post count. But your pics prove that apparently retards can procreate, compelling at best. I've owned damn near every brand of scope at one point or another. I know I've run 5-6 Burris scopes. I don't need to keep eating [bleep] sandwiches to know they taste like [bleep] You ever hunt day in and day out in rain/snow/wind/salt? Remember when I say rain I don't mean you wearing a yellow slicker in your favorite porn theater dropping another kid on the floor. Actually, it is about post count. How on earth you find time to hunt when you make over 43,000 posts escapes me. You need a life. And as far as pro-creating, the young lady in the pictures is my step-daughter. What me having fathered children has to do with Scout scopes escapes me, but at any rate, rave on, you're making yourself look like a moron. I don't know what your problem was with Burris scopes, but I can just about guarentee you that if there IS a problem other than the idiot behind the trigger, it was (is) somewhere in the rifle. If you'll notice I live in NORTH TEXAS, and if you think about it, you know that I don't hunt in salt, I don't hunt in rain (we have sense enough to kill our game when it's not raining, and the game have sense enough to bed up when it is), I do hunt in wind (what the hell does that have to do with scopes?), and again, it doesn't snow much in North Texas, but I have had the occassion to hunt elk in NM and CO when it was snowing. Again, no problems with Burris scopes. You're a big man sitting there for hours on end hammering away at a keyboard, aren't you? 35WN
"Only accurate rifles are interesting."- Col. Townsend Whelen "I always tell the truth....that way, I don't have to remember anything."- George Burns NRA Life Member Certified NRA Reloading Instructor Certified Texas Hunter Education Instructor
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Damn fine shootin' sir! I can count 10 rounds on the target on the right; were 10 rounds fired into the group on the left as well?
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I think so.
I wasn't really counting.
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In my experience, ANY scope with a turret is a compromise. Sure, they make for easy adjustment, but being drug out of and crammed into a saddle scabbard, or used as a support while climbing a mountain, those damned things are just begging to be knocked off. Plus the added weight of big scopes like that make trapsing around a 10,000 ft. even more difficult. Of course if they're just sitting in the gun safe while the owner pecks away at a keyboard, they're perfect. But, if you like them and they work for you, then more power to you. 35WN
[bleep]' phunny post! feel free to peck away with your guns sitting the safe, tho.
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Curious to know which scabbard is set-up for the profile of a scout scope system, having the bulge for the scope so far down the barrel....
Or, how the scouit scout system, with the base, rings, and scope, is so much lighter than the 14 oz of a 6x42 FX-III and Talley LWs....
Or, how the fragile and easily knocked off turrets somehow manage to keep up with the "gentle" treatment they receive in use in combat situations with military snipers, not to mention the use by hunters who don't sit in boxblinds....
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Curious to know which scabbard is set-up for the profile of a scout scope system, having the bulge for the scope so far down the barrel....
Or, how the scouit scout system, with the base, rings, and scope, is so much lighter than the 14 oz of a 6x42 FX-III and Talley LWs....
Or, how the fragile and easily knocked off turrets somehow manage to keep up with the "gentle" treatment they receive in use in combat situations with military snipers, not to mention the use by hunters who don't sit in boxblinds.... Curious to know which scabbard is set-up for the profile of a scout scope system, having the bulge for the scope so far down the barrel....
Or, how the scouit scout system, with the base, rings, and scope, is so much lighter than the 14 oz of a 6x42 FX-III and Talley LWs....
Or, how the fragile and easily knocked off turrets somehow manage to keep up with the "gentle" treatment they receive in use in combat situations with military snipers, not to mention the use by hunters who don't sit in boxblinds.... I can't tell you which "brand" scabbard is set up for the profile of a Scout scope "system" as you put it. The scabbards we use are custom made and they'll handle my Scout rifle no problem. But, if you'll re-read my post, I never said I carried my Scout rifle in a scabbard. It's not an elk rifle though I have no doubt it would work. If you want to compare the weights of the scopes, I'll humor you...the 6x42 weighs close to 11 1/2 oz. while the Burris Scout scope weighs 7. Add the Ashley (now XS) mount and it's still a tad lighter than yours, I have no idea how much the rings weigh nor do I intend to weigh them . I didn't say the turrets were fragile, I just said something sticking up like the Leaning Tower of Pisa is just begging to be damaged. But if you want to disgrace a light, trim little rifle like the one you pictured, you're the one that looks like a fool,not me. In fact, it looks like your rifle is attached to the scope instead of the other way around... Hey, regarding the boxblind remark, maybe you can find something original, huh? Again, the original post asked for opinions on the Burris Scout scope, NOT opinions on Scout scopes in general. So, if you own one, state your opinion and move on. If you don't, shut your pie-hole and begin work on that lofty goal of your 45,000nth post... Think I'll go to the shop and start packing for my elk hunt. 35WN
"Only accurate rifles are interesting."- Col. Townsend Whelen "I always tell the truth....that way, I don't have to remember anything."- George Burns NRA Life Member Certified NRA Reloading Instructor Certified Texas Hunter Education Instructor
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Okay, so you knock turrets for something that you admit the scout scope isn't up for.
Red herring.
What's the Ashley base weigh? Add in rings, too, as they are required. Minimum 2.5 oz for rings, so you're at 9.5 oz for the scout vs. 13.5 oz for the 6x42 and Talleys. You've got 4 oz for the base, before the weights are equal or the scout system is heavier.
That, ain't much, and certainly not enough to write home about.
"asking to be damaged", and being so, are quite a ways apart. Again, red herring.
Haven't posted a pic of my rifle yet, any of them (at least not on this thread), so you strike out there, too.
Boxblind scored an X ring, obviously.
Post envy, as well as envy of other attributes, suits you; keep it up.
Having used the Burris Scout Scope, I can, will, and did offer my opinion. Differs from yours, and your ass hurts because of it. Sucks to be you.
Good luck to the elk....
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That is spectacular accuracy from that old Martini! That is spectacular accuracy from that old man!!
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I think so.
I wasn't really counting. Brisoe. What distance were those groups fired at?
To all gunmaker critics- "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt
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I think in another post/thread he said 100 yards.
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The Martini was shot at 50 yards.
The K31 was shot at 100.
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