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To my taste, it was more like deer than anything. Very lean and hard to cook unmarinated without searing the outside and leaving the inside bloody. Took awhile to get the hang of it; it's a dense meat, but very tasty and went well with a red wine marinade.

Just because you're old doesn't make you infallible. It just means your scrotum is wrinkled and you piss 6 times a night.

Thanks. too bad we can't readily get at the grocery store here in the States. I would like to try some.

Now that is funny

" Why was Ray Atkinson fried? "


Was he battered as well ?

sctotum..., scrotum..., wrinkly krinckly baggo' skin...an' its the sack hat holds my nutz in...scrotum..., scrotum...
an I only have to get up once a night.

I was warned but if any of you want to play hard ball..Sign up here....

www.levergunlovers.com

I really can't believe the lack of respect for people like Ray,but i'll play..

Jayco

No dog in the fight, but didn't Ray claim to have seen a 26" Pronghorn??


Doesn't sound like a firm grasp on the west.

Jayco,

I go back posting with you to the old MarlinTalk. I have no dog in this fight but IMHO, Ray did seem to exaggerate a bit. He had some great lines and I used one for awhile, paraphrasing but the one that an animal is like a can of Coors was priceless.

Ray had many opportunities to defend himself and prove the naysayers wrong but never did. I don't know why but my guess is that he couldn't back it up.

I did enjoy his posts and would have loved to see the hunts, animals and firearms he spoke of but again, he never did.

I know a few guys like him that talk a good line and have some real world experience but like to embellish a bit and talk louder than others, because of a couple I have a disdain for the 270 Winchester that I have to get over.

The last thing is I enjoy posts by Phil Shoemaker, Steve Timm, JB, Dober, Big Stick(needs a better way to deliver his message), etc as they talk well and back up what they say in words, photos, etc. No hit, but Ray is not even on the same playing field, again IMHO

I'm not one of the wolves that follows Ray around on the various forums and tries to discredit him. IMHO, Ray has done a fine job of discrediting himself over the years.

I've been a member of AR since February of 2001. Despite what some people think of AR on here, the link I posted above has posts by some of the actual players involved in the whole mess that Ray found himself caught up in. He did NOT come out looking very good. His credibility was blown to pieces and he was caught in flat out lies.

The thread on AR went into a LOT more detail about the whole deal than the one posted here in the 24HCF African Forum.

Also, it seems that you have a prejudice against the "African guys" on here... Hmmm... Why is that?

For the record, almost my ENTIRE hunting "career" consists of 3 safaris in South Africa for plains game. (In 2000, 2002 and 2005.) I have taken a total of 22 animals in South Africa. I have NEVER done any hunting in North America except for taking 2 feral hogs here in Texas back in 2001. That's the total of my hunting experience, period.

However, I believe I do have enough experience in Africa to know that some of what Ray has espoused about his experience on here (and other forum websites) does not pass the "smell test".

Do you really think that in today's Africa a booking agent from Idaho could go to Africa and take and/or cull "a hundred or hundreds" of Cape Buff? That Ray could afford all of the airfare, for the many trips it would take, on an agent's earnings?

IMHO, Ray tries to pass himself off as the reincarnation of John "Pondoro" Taylor..... Frankly, I think it smells and I take with a grain of salt many of his "tales" about his experience. It just doesn't add up IMHO.

Again, I recommend that anyone interested in this topic about Ray really needs to read the entire thread over on AR (link posted above). Judge for yourself concerning Ray's credibility and honesty.

My two cents....
-Bob F.

Fricken drama queens I tell ya! Ant burnin, candy a$$, drama queens. The whole lot of em.

There you go!
2009 Trappers lic

2009 meat lic

1995 again

1995

1998 80 roo's

2009...I think

15 years of tags
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That's alot of kangaroos. How much does a big kangaroo weigh and how do you hunt them?

Thanks.

Oops...missed a couple.

Last truck 2008 or 9, not sure.

Back of last human consumption truck.

Chip

I wasn't going to reply to anymore post until I read yours.I do remember you and your a fair guy with a level head and I take what you post with interest and the belief you believe it.

I was born in Idaho to a family of packers and names come down year after year you remember.At one time Ray was well thought of here in Idaho as a person.Maybe it all changed or he is as bad as me at putting words to the keyboard.

I was not trying to start a riot,just asking why...I doubt there are any that can tell me Jack's favorite packer in Idaho.I new the man and loved to hell the stories of Jack and others as stories go..Sadly he passed away last summer and will be missed along with his stories..

The guy that was with me on my first Elk just got his 18th in a row at 85 years old...A man to listen too and learn..Seems most here already know it all so I am pizzin in the wind but never forget,I still have a lot to learn and listen to those with more than I have..

The rest is easy to figure out if you have any experience at all.

Jayco

I've never known a fisherman or hunter that did not embelish the tail or tale each time he told it.

I guess I've seldom felt compelled to call someone out. When I sense that one has moved from embelishment to fantacy, I just pass over. After all...this is the internet.

I'm staying out of this pot-stirring thread regarding Ray but like [bleep] and opinions I have mine as well and anyone can PM me but since my name was mentioned, well I feel compelled to respond. Jayco, I've had lever guns all my life and my foray with the 1895 was up front all the way. It was and is an attempt to replicate was Teddy Roosevelt did but I still consider it's capabilities limited and far from optimum for large, dangerous African game (emphasis on large). There is no way a 405 Win, 45/70 or even the new 475 Turnbull can stay with an appropriate Express or Magnum caliber as defined by at least an SD or 300 or above and MV > 2000-2100 fps and at least 300gr(and remember this is my opinion, based on my limited experience and gleaning from others with considerable experience with large, dangerous game). I know all abolut Randy Garrett and his solids that shot clean through elephants, buffalo and even the kitchen sink. I've also know a few gents who've taken elephant with a bow, what more proof do we need that all of the above work? Where I take exception is when someone tries to sell me on the idea that a Marlin lever gun in 45/70 is every bit the DG gun is as a 458WM to name just one. That is delusional. When I finally do get around to whacking a buffalo with a 405, of one thing you can be certain, next to me will be two people, the PH with his backup rifle and a tracker holding either my double 450NE or my 416 Rigby. Levers are way cool and an 1895 TR is "uber cool" but it is nothing more than a calculated whim on my part. Now for the cats we might be closer to agreement, but in my opinion (and there is that word again) a Marlin in 45/70 is about as cool as a minivan...jorge

How did the Oh [bleep] Happen?

No, it isn't....best night was 95....worst night 0.

Only allowed to shoot on properties that have a 121 issued for a specific number, species, date range and location.
Shoot any outside these parameters and all hell breaks loose.

All have to be head shot, at night under a spotlight.....failure to head shoot results in an aus $300.00 fine per offence.
Guaranteed to make you a good shot!!!!!

Always shot alone, as I was too bloody miserable to pay some sod to do what I could do myself.

Gee officer....I think I may have gone to sleep.....there is no way in hell I shot a roo 210 yards out into the scrub and went after it....in the dark with my lights off.....because I was less than a kilometre from someones house.....on a public road.....!

What is worse, I had spent most of the night digging my truck out of flooded irrigation....NOT FUN!


NOTE TO NPWS officers....note that I said that there is NO WAY...so fnck off and annoy someone else.