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What's your annual average rainfall? 50 inches?

And no, I don't have [bleep] rifles.

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
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This is funny..


Jeff, you must have some pretty [bleep] rifles.


Lol, is that your way of conceding?


BTW, ALL of my SS Rifles seal the air nicely, including my titanium actions. But like I said, I don't have any [bleep] rifles..

Now what is that average annual rainfall that magically has made you the spokesmen for hunting in wet climates?

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He probably tried it without an empty case in the chamber............DJ


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Kimber does it too. Air air air. smile



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Again are you doing it with an empty case in the chamber?..............DJ


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Jeff, are you covering the back of the shroud with your thumb? Air will enter your bolt via the FP hole and exit out the back. Keep trying..

I make no claims on Kimber.

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Focus Jeff.. Annual Rainfall?

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My kimber offers no air resistance unless you put an empty case in the chamber, then you can't blow any air through it. Jeff must not be putting a case in the chamber.............dj


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He'll get it figured out one of these decades..

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Damn.. Got quiet. Sure hope Jeff didn't try it with a live round..

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Originally Posted by Calvin
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Originally Posted by Calvin
This is funny..


Jeff, you must have some pretty [bleep] rifles.


Lol, is that your way of conceding?


BTW, ALL of my SS Rifles seal the air nicely, including my titanium actions. But like I said, I don't have any [bleep] rifles..



Lol. Well, I tried it on a M7, 2 M700's, and my Kimber and they were all gushers. Kind of stopped there because obviously, all I have are [bleep] rifles.

Airtight closed breech. Snork. You are killin' me here.


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Originally Posted by djpaintless
My kimber offers no air resistance unless you put an empty case in the chamber, then you can't blow any air through it. Jeff must not be putting a case in the chamber.............dj


The Kimber gushed more air out of the lug/chamber mouth area but the M7 and 700's put out a bunch, too.

Air can gush out, water can certainly get in, if only obviously <g>.

Calvin: try again with damp fingers, you'll feel the air like crazy. And dude... the gas vent hole in the side of the reciever there... where does that go to... straight to...? Hint...?

Calvin said it didn't matter for his point if there was a case chambered. He and his buddies mostly hunt "cold" anyway... so it's not relevant here. He's saying no water can enter even without a case in the chamber.

Personally, I'd expect that the case will make a big difference; how could it not? It'll slow water down for sure. But for the love of God, guys... watertight? Really? REALLY!? grin


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Prove it Jeff. Prove water can get into a taped barrel with a closed, uncocked bolt.


OK. I think I did that. Let me know if you disagree.

Method: dry tissue rolled into a little doobie-thing and pushed into the muzzle about 2". Bolt closed, chamber empty. Unpressurized water poured into bolt lug/chamber mouth area from above. Also made sure to hit the gas vent hole a bit. Towel in my left hand around outside of barrel to preclude water running down underside and somehow wicking back into tissue recessed into muzzle.

Note that position of firing pin (cocked/uncocked) is not relevant to what happens with water coming in from the loading port/breech area.

Result: Within seconds, and after less than a measured 1/4 cup (most of which ran into the sink via overflowing), water started dripping from the muzzle. That's AFTER it saturated the tissue. Picked some tissue out with a toothpick, had to push out the remaining tissue goo with a rod because it was so liquid.

Conclusion: water not only can and will enter through the breech, it does so very easily.

Did you learn something today, my slightly caustic brother to the north? wink

Furthermore: I would hypothesize that both muzzle tape and a cartridge in the chamber will slow but not by any means stop, the entry of water by this vector. Further testing is advised should Calvin et al be stupid enough to desire more punishment. Lol.

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OK good test but I would think if you just submerge your rifle in the bathtub with a loaded cartridge and the barrel taped you should be able to find out for sure by drying the outside off removing the tape and inspecting the bore!! Someone needs to try this!!! But you must have a cartridge in the chamber..

Me, I would use a dummy loaded cartridge as the hole in the bathtub and subsequent police investigation would make the newspapers... grin

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by djpaintless
My kimber offers no air resistance unless you put an empty case in the chamber, then you can't blow any air through it. Jeff must not be putting a case in the chamber.............dj


The Kimber gushed more air out of the lug/chamber mouth area but the M7 and 700's put out a bunch, too.

Air can gush out, water can certainly get in, if only obviously <g>.

Calvin: try again with damp fingers, you'll feel the air like crazy. And dude... the gas vent hole in the side of the reciever there... where does that go to... straight to...? Hint...?

Calvin said it didn't matter for his point if there was a case chambered. He and his buddies mostly hunt "cold" anyway... so it's not relevant here. He's saying no water can enter even without a case in the chamber.

Personally, I'd expect that the case will make a big difference; how could it not? It'll slow water down for sure. But for the love of God, guys... watertight? Really? REALLY!? grin

are you guys really blowing rifle barrels now? I am out...too much...


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Jeff,

He is pulling your chain. He's gonna have you dumping acra-glass down your barrel in a little while. grin

While I agree that a chambered round helps prevent water from getting in, condensation from high humidity is enough to rust a chamber if it is constantly exposed to that type of weather.

Water resistent-yes, waterproof-no.


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Jeff your test is complete BS without a case in the chamber........................DJ


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Ya'll are trying to kill the poor boy.

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Ya'll are trying to kill the poor boy.

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I was wrong.. 118 and counting... LMAO..


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