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I just got out a Beeman S1 I bought several years ago. For those in the dark (as I would be) this is a .177 caliber spring airgun that bosts 1000 FPS.

I adore that gun. The sights are excilent to my eyes, the trigger isn't too heavy, it has an automatic safety that I like, it has a nice peice of wood for the stock and a good solid heft to it, unlike some Daisys that weigh less than some handguns.

There is just one problem that may make me sell that gun. It shoots good 1.5 inch groups at 50 FEET

I'm not an excilent shot, but I can make one-hole groups with other airguns I have at that distance. This gun just won't shoot. I've tried a number of different pellets in it. These include Beeman Silver Arrows(11.2 grains), Beeman Crow Magnums (8.8 grains) Dynamit Nobel Superdomes (8.3 grains) Beeman H&N Match (7.5 grains) Benjamen Sheridan Diablos (7.9 grains)

Here's the weird part. Sometimes it shoots the Benjamens the best, some times the Silver Arrows, and other times the Superdomes.

Sometimes it'll shoot all of the same kind of pellet into two groups one about 1.5 inches above the other.

Have I just not tried enough pellets? Did I get a [bleep] gun? Is there anything I can do?

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PS, Is there a better catagory to post airgun stuff in? Small game is just one use for this gun if I can ever get it to shoot.

has it been cleaned? Is the spring very wore out?

It sound's like you have developed a flinch.probaly from the recoil,, HEHEHE <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Never shot an airgun that far on purpose. My Benjamin 312 holds minute of squirrel head at about 25 feet, that's all I need. Tagged 3 yesterday as a matter of fact. Some kind of cheap crossman pellet that hardly deforms. Remarkable thing to me is that I can hit anything, my vision is no longer kindly towards iron sights. Over the last 3-4 months I've put 18 or so in the freezer with it. Never as far as 50 ft though.

I'd get on the phone to Beean. It is possible the seals have dried to the point they don't seal consistantly. I have a FWB 124 while not as powerful, as your gun, it is very accurate. My gun is very sensitive to different pellets and to damaged pellets. I suspect your gun is as well. The Olympic quality pellets are packaged separately to prevent damage. I suspect Beeman's will be able to help. BTW have you had your gun accurized. My most consistant airgun, with regard to pellets, is a very old sheridan .20.

Hubert, these guns have a very noticable recoil. The recoil is unique and can ruin a fine rifle scope is a short time.pak

If the S1 is the only springer you have it may be related to grip. As pak stated, springer airguns have a very distinct recoil that can trash a non-airgun rated scope is very short order.

I have an R9 that has taken a freezer full of bunnies & squirrels, but it took me a little bit of time for me to figure out the right grip. I've found that a slightly loose hold is necessary to let the gun recoil straight back under its own. If I try to hold too tight, then I'll get inconsistent groups. Same thing will happen if I hold it too loose.

I also have a 1000 FPS Gamo air rifle (also a springer) and I can shoot it twice as well as the Beeman. I have a much smaller Gamo, their Delta model. (21 LB cocking force) This gun is very accurate.

I am somewhat familiar with the recoil of a spring air rifle. I read somewhere that it has a "double recoil" which is because the rifle kicks back when the spring starts up, and again when the pellet moves. For anyone who hasn't yet gotten the oppertunity to shoot a springer should be warned, dont let your jaw or cheek bone rest on the stock when you fire. The rifle seems to vibrate and it hurts if you have bone right agianst it.

Hey, thanks for the information you've given me, I'll call Beeman when I get the chance.

There is a great article about the Beeman in this months TAR. The guy who wrote it had a similar problem and it went away with the addition of a after market (but cheap) receiver sight. If you would like a copy of the article let me know and I can scan it and send it off to you.

I shoot a Beeman R1. Beemans are a high quality air rifle. They should shoot great, and if they don't something is wrong. They do create a lot of vibration, and things then tend to loosen up. I have to always check and make sure the screws are tight and haven't loosened. The screws around the trigger guard especially get loose. I take it out often around the barns to shoot pigeons. I am now in the habit of taking my little screw driver kit with me because after about 25 or 30 shots I find the vibration starts to loosen up the screws. It sound like something is loose on your gun. Check scope mounts, rings, etc. I promise you if something on the Beeman is loose, it won't group. Such is the case with any gun, right! Won't hurt to check and try different pellets. Some shoot good for me and some don't. .20 cal. silver jets shoots good in .177, but rattles down the barrel in my .20 cal., and don't shoot worth crap for me. I have pellet sizer too. That makes a difference too in accuracy. Make sure you have chamber and spring oiled too. Don't let piston plunger get dry. Use felt cleaning pellets and solvent too to clean the barrel.
These pellet guns create a lot of vibration with the two-way recoil. They will turn a $500 Leupold scope to junk in a week. You need to get a regular air rifle scope designed to withstand the two-way recoil. Don't use a good regular rifle scope on them. It WILL ruin them.
Good luck in getting your Beeman to shoot. Beeman are geat guns, and capable of shooting super groups.

Hunter01

I have ussed an old buschnell banner fixed 4x scope for about 3 years on an RWS m24. it works great still

Good for you Loaderman.
Consider yourself lucky. I can tell you story after story of guys putting regular rifle scopes on air rifles and having them ruined because of the two way recoil. That's why you see them selling "air rifle scopes" on the market today. They are of a special design to withstand the unusual recoil from the air rifles that ruins so many regular rifle scopes. Have a close friend who ruined a Leupold 24X by putting it on his Beeman R1.
Hunter01