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If the Partition shoots that well in your rifle, I'd stop looking!
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Hard to argue with the performance of the NPT. Swifts have a great reputation as well, but from what I'm reading about the cannelure being too far aft on the 300 grainers, I would be inclined to go with the Nosler and forget it.
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I dont know about the cannelure and Partitions are great bullets sure enough but given a choice between the two (assuming similar accuracy) I'd pick the A Frame every time.
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Same here jorge...and I have found A-frames to be particularly easy to work with..Noslers have NEVER let me down, so don't get me wrong...Noslers are GREAT, but A-frames are Phenomenal... Wish they made one in a .22....
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BTW that last one is a 180gr Hornady Interlock out of a 300 Weatherby recovered from an impala. Yes recovered. There's a lesson in there somewhere....
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Virtually all the discussion involving A-Frames revolve around Cape Buff and the larger PG like Eland.
For those that have experience, how has the A-Frame performed on the smaller lighter, thin skinned PG (Kudu and smaller)? Would it be recommended, or a perhaps a different bullet if the larger species were not on the menu?
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Any one have experience with the 9.3x62 285 grain Norma Oryx? This shoots very well in my CZ550.
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BTW that last one is a 180gr Hornady Interlock out of a 300 Weatherby recovered from an impala. Yes recovered. There's a lesson in there somewhere.... Jorge: Knowing how thorough and deliberate you are about your hunting gear I was frankly suprised to read that you shot that 180gn Hornady Interlock out of your 300 Wby Mag!!! I love the Interlocks out of my -'06, but I would have thought it would virtually explode, with shallow penetration at Wby Mag velocities. Shows you how much I know!
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Fost: See the pics of the bullets shown. Zebra, eland and wildebeest recoveries. The kudu went all the way through. They work great. Jet, the Hornnady was not my first choice. I had just bought that rifle and did not have time to work up loads so I had Weatherby factory X bullets (not TSX). Well they were a "hot" batch and almost froze my bolt so at the last minute Weatherby sent me out replacement ammo and Horndadys were it. Never again. Since they I've used factory Partitions with great success and nowadays exlcusively TTSXs. jorge
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Virtually all the discussion involving A-Frames revolve around Cape Buff and the larger PG like Eland.
For those that have experience, how has the A-Frame performed on the smaller lighter, thin skinned PG (Kudu and smaller)? Would it be recommended, or a perhaps a different bullet if the larger species were not on the menu? Shot many head of plains game from Duiker to Eland with 300 A-frames from a 375hh; lots of one shot kills(38 of 40). About the only thing they did damage to in a negative way was a Jackel(off side was sure a mess.LOL). All 3 PH's that trip were pleased with the performance. Recovered very few, and a good portion broke the off side shoulder and exited(Impala,Bluewildebeest,Nyala). I did have a few text book recovered examples from a few frontals; Kudu found in the ham,Gemsbok found under the skin after going thru the rumen;Blue Wildebeest again as the Gemsbok under the skin. Shooting them now in a 270win; and had good performance on a Muledeer this year.
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Did some culling with a 165 gr A-frame in an '06 ( Kudu, Wildebeest,Gemsbok, Waterbuck..) and got excellent performance. So good in fact that when I shot a Wildebeest bull and he plopped over in 10 yds, my PH turns around and says " WHAT bullet did you say you were shooting...?"
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Ingwe; Do you remember the load you used with the Aframe in the 30/06?
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Fost: See the pics of the bullets shown. Zebra, eland and wildebeest recoveries. The kudu went all the way through. They work great. Jet, the Hornnady was not my first choice. I had just bought that rifle and did not have time to work up loads so I had Weatherby factory X bullets (not TSX). Well they were a "hot" batch and almost froze my bolt so at the last minute Weatherby sent me out replacement ammo and Horndadys were it. Never again. Since they I've used factory Partitions with great success and nowadays exlcusively TTSXs. jorge Jorge: Actually, I'm glad you made that shot with the Hornady as it provides meaningful field experience of how it performs at high Weatherby mag speeds. Ain't no mud on it for slower speeds though I'm told.
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they are GREAT for slower speeds, >2700 fps. My opinion anyway..
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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they are GREAT for slower speeds, >2700 fps. My opinion anyway.. +1 on the Horns at slower speeds...always performed with excellence for me at around 2400-2800...
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Chui,
Nice looking rifle. What make?
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I went the 250 gr X route in 2002 and was completely satisfied. These from gemsbuck, bushbuck, two kudu and an eland.
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I've initiated contact with my PH for an upcoming safari to RSA. He seems to favor the SAF and I am loyal toward the local favorite Nosler Partition (Oregonian). I think going with the PH's recommendation is a good thing, but so is what you're comfortable and confident shooting.
For those of you with experience with PG and DG with the 9.3, which of the two would you load up for Africa? I'm planning on using the 286gn in each.
Can you sight some examples to narrow it down for me? Penetration, performance, tissue damage? I could go either way, but what's worked best for you? I have a CZ 550 American with a Burris Signature 1.5x6x40 Illumidot.
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Jetblueman I took my 9.3x62mm on a buffalo hunt to Zimbabwe in 2012 and had great success with it. The photo below is the 286gr Swift A-Frame I recovered from my buffalo. We found the bullet just under the skin of the opposite shoulder. He didn't run very far... That being said, both the Swift A-Frame and the Nosler Partition are great bullets and either will likely serve you very well for both plains and dangerous game (except elephant).
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