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The guys that hunt public/block land are the guys that buy nothing but a tank a gas on there way through. They like to hunt but won't spend any money. Thats my opinion anyway.
Dink as someone that hunts those areas im gonna say bullchit.....they fill up the hotel rooms and bars and such around here.... I used to hunt with guys that would only hunt public ground. Those guys always brought thier tent and meals from home. They also drive from straight through even if its 24 hour drive. They thought paying a tresspass fee was paying to much to hunt. I know alot of guys that do it this way and there is no way they are paying for meals and hotels. Dink and there is a whole lot that dont.....
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DINK, the more i think about it the more it surprises me you say you hunt Montana alot.....you pay through the nose for a trespass fee to hunt the one critter its easy to fill your tag with in short order on public ground than hunt public ground for mule deer....you seem to have no grounding in reality for what most hunters that come to this state do.....and we cant seem to get through your skull that we got rid of the outfitters tags cause of the outfitters and not access to private land or cause we hate NR hunters.....
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Wow, I am actually glad I started this thread. I have a couple offers of people willing to show me round MT.. Now all I need is a tag!!
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I dropped more than a few bucks in Miles City this fall while hunting Block Management land,and I hope to do it again next fall.The motel I stayed in was full of hunters,most hunting public or block land.Hunters are good for small town economies,and I can't see that changing anytime soon.Outfitters piss off residents in a lot of states and provinces,here in BC they drive us nuts.Nice to see Montana voters send them a message. Monashee
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DINK, the more i think about it the more it surprises me you say you hunt Montana alot.....you pay through the nose for a trespass fee to hunt the one critter its easy to fill your tag with in short order on public ground than hunt public ground for mule deer....you seem to have no grounding in reality for what most hunters that come to this state do.....and we cant seem to get through your skull that we got rid of the outfitters tags cause of the outfitters and not access to private land or cause we hate NR hunters..... Rattler I understand that. I look at though as your hatred toward the outfitters is being taken out on me. Residence knew that by taking away the outfitter tag that it was not going to cost them anything but would cost all other non-resident hunters more money. The people voted to screw the average guy because of there hatred/jealousy toward outfitters that are probaly a resident of montana. I don't think the people are against out of state hunters but I don't feel I should foot the bill for everyone wanting to be mean to outfitters. Rattler I don't think we will agree on the guys staying at the motel. The non-resident guys that will give $500 or $600 a week to stay in a motel room will be the guys paying the tresspass fees to hunt. In my experience/opinion the guys hunting the public ground are to cheap to pay to stay in the hotel or a tresspass fee. Maybe thats only with the group of guys I know and have hunted with. I think you will find the hotels alot more vacant in 2011. It will be interesting to see. Dink
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Wow, I am actually glad I started this thread. I have a couple offers of people willing to show me round MT.. Now all I need is a tag!! Thats great. Once you hunt the west you will want to do it every year... Dink
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given the out of state pickups i see outside the Cottonwood in Glasgow are the same ones hunting the hills with me im pretty sure im right....
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I have stayed in the Cottonwood many a year on our way thru into the Charles Russell.
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The non-resident guys that will give $500 or $600 a week to stay in a motel room will be the guys paying the tresspass fees to hunt. In my experience/opinion the guys hunting the public ground are to cheap to pay to stay in the hotel or a tresspass fee. OR, maybe they're not 'Rich Guys' that want to be pandered and don't mind doing it this way and couldn't afford it the other way. OR, they realize that by not spending money on hotels/leases the $200 increase ain't worth bitchin' about. OR, they figure that camping out and not leasing land for pronghorns allows them to go again the next year, cause it's cheaper. OR they're not 'Wussy Rich Guys' from MO... I know for me, I'd rather stay in a decent camp than to stay in a small town motel. Plus, I can usually cut down on the drive in the morning/night that way.
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The people voted to screw the average guy because of there hatred/jealousy toward outfitters that are probaly a resident of montana. I don't think the people are against out of state hunters but I don't feel I should foot the bill for everyone wanting to be mean to outfitters.
Rattler I don't think we will agree on the guys staying at the motel. The non-resident guys that will give $500 or $600 a week to stay in a motel room will be the guys paying the tresspass fees to hunt. Dink
Nearly every eastern montana outfitter/guide I have come into contact were NOT montana residents. Many from Wisconsin, a few from Pennsylvania, a few from Idaho and Washington. I encouraged the Gazette to do a story on the impacts and outfitter residence but no luck. My experience is that in eastern montana the outfitters are not residents. Dink didn't you report that part of your Montana hunting trip included room and board provided by the ranch. What hotel you staying in, how much local revenue are you providing?
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I didn't hunt MT this year but I did hunt WY for antelope. I stayed in a hotel, ate my dinner at a local restaurant, drank a few drinks each night at the bar and bought gas from the local filling station. I spent all of that money in WY and I hunted public ground.
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I would also like to give a hearty cheer to any non-resident hunting Montana and staying in a tent for the last week and a half. Account relayed yesterday was that the residents with campers in the belts were pooling their money to send in the D8 to plow the road so they can get their campers out.
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Pointer I am glad your not a wuss and I hope you get tell everyone how much you gave for your muledeer tag. Hell I hope you give them a extra $500 as a tip for the privelege of hunting there. Maybe next year they will make it mandatory for you lick someones azzhole before get a tag...I know that won't bother you though.
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Ahem.....
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Now we know how you really harvest those dinks.
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2X4...preferably hardwood... Also serves to tenderize the meat...as if it needs it...
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Back to the original post...FWP's initial plan for nonresident tags...jim http://fwpiis.mt.gov/content/getItem.aspx?id=47258
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Thanks Jim,
That about sums it up!
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Thanks hunterjim....wow they even raised the youth tags by $134.50. Could you even get a youth outfitter tag before?
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you know for some who says it aint bout the money you sure are focused on it.....
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