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Has Jeff Quinn ever met a firearm that he DIDN'T like?

...........Or, maybe he does reviews on only those firearms he DOES like?

Can't really see how it's even a decent version of a scout rifle when it misses several of the key concepts so badly; weight, ability to top-load/stripper-feed, use of standard magazines, "glass-filled (aka "plastic") triggerguard... For starters.

Not making it in stainless is just stupid.

Honestly, I find it to a half-assed shot at the concept, with nothing more going for it than the "gunsite" name, and barely that.

Put it in a synthetic stock to shave the weight down to the original "specs" with three sling studs for utilization of the "ching sling", do the bottom metal/TG in steel, do all the steel in stainless, utilize M14 or FN/FAL magazines, have the rear apeture sight be a flip-up ghost ring with tritium inserts, the front sight a post with tritium line, and if possible set up the receiver casting for feed guides for standard 7.62NATO strippers, with the picatinny rail/bases two-piece to accomodate the same.

THAT would be a true fulfillment of Cooper's concept.

Ruger's latest attempt is mediocre, at best.

If it was a gift, maybe. I'd not spend money on one though. Bring the magazine up flush with the stock, and I might even consider carrying it. The rail and brake would have to go though.

From that article

I was able to find a set of Ruger to Weaver adaptors, but Dave Biggers at XS Sight Systems came through with a better idea. XS machined a long Picatinny rail to run atop the Ruger receiver and extend in front of the receiver to also accommodate a forward-mounted Scout scope or dot sight. Perfect!

If you'll notice Dave was in the pictures too. So the news of the rifle was out for many weeks in advance for XS to have come up a new rail system.

Which is eerily similar to what I thought Ruger ought to put on Scouts and Compacts last page back.

I'm going to email Dave and suggest they bring out a version with integral flipup sight to mount on Compact, one compatible with Frontiers or any 77. AND a 20 MOA rail that adapts onto the Ruger integral mounts.

Another thought:

Reckon Ruger will make those magwell trigger guards available as a part that can be retrofitted to any short action Mk II?

Folks who participate in long range tac/prac matches or like to work over a PD town faster may want one.

Maybe barrel makers will recommend that magazine configuration for pdog shooters, so that they can sell more barrels.

Jeff

I've got to give it to Ruger for trying something new but I just don't get this gun at all. 7 lbs is lightweight? 10 rd mag, etc..If they want to call it a tactical/self defense rifle go ahead, a scout rifle, I just don't see it.

And by the way, the review was so so at best.

I have hunted with the Frontier both ways... The shot on this doe was at 55 yards+-, moving...the scope was on 2.5 or 3 power and could have just as easily made with the 2,5 IER scope...

It would be nice if they provided one magazine that was flush with the bottom of the triggerguard like the Savage Scout, one 10 round and made an optional 5 round..

There apparently a demand for the now discontinued Frontier in .308. I just sold an extra stainless one I had on GunBroker..it brought $840 bare...like no box, rings..nothing..

But not being stainless I doubt I'll be buying one unless a used one for a great price shows up...

Bob

........RJM...........Is that Frontier a 308?

Ugly and expensive. I do like Scout rifles.

The ultimate truck gun!

I need someone to buy one so I can play with it.

But, like "The Judge" I won't spend my money on it.

BMT

............At least my Frontier is better lookin.

I would put a thermal scope on it.

Different enough � I have no use for the rail and don�t care for how it looks. Matter of personal taste, not right or wrong.

..........Ok! Take away the scout base and the heavier barrel which the Frontiers do have, replace it with a lighter barrel, and you still come up with the same rifle as the new Ruger compacts.

However the newer Ruger compacts have the checkered stocks, while the Frontiers did not. I do wish I had the checkered stock on my Frontier though.

Correct, a .308 AR-10A4

Looks like it would be a fun gun to mess around with. Why not?

I gotta hand it to Ruger though. This company has some big ones and is willing to experiment, innovate, take some risks, and throw some stuff against the wall to see if it sticks.

And when they have teamed up with Hornady and others, their successes have definetely showed.

They have?